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92% of house republicans hate diabetics
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:12 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
https://news.yahoo.com/house-passes-bil ... 24206.html
Despite the opposition from 92% of house Republicans, the house has passed a bill to cap insulin prices at $35. I doubt it'll survive the senate but I like to dream.
Re: 92% of house republicans hate diabetics
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:34 am
by hammerofglass
It doesn't actually cap the price, it caps the co-pay. So it doesn't help the uninsured at all, the drug manufacturers are still collecting at the inflated prices, and the insurance companies will probably raise premiums to preserve their profit margins.
It's great for people with insurance who need it in the short term, but longer term it's rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Re: 92% of house republicans hate diabetics
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:58 am
by McAvoy
Hey hey now. It's not they hate them, they just love money more.
Re: 92% of house republicans hate diabetics
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:21 am
by clearspira
Insulin is free on the NHS here in the UK. All critical to life meds are. I'm not bringing this up for any nationalistic reason, i'm bringing it up to prove that the US could make it free just fine if it wanted to.
The irony is that if you knocked just 1-2% off your defence budget, you would still have an army that is more than capable of doing anything that it needs to do and yet also be able to do things such as give the dying their medicine. Never ever buy the idea that your government ''does not have the money'' to help you with your medical bills because it simply is not true.
Re: 92% of house republicans hate diabetics
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:34 pm
by TGLS
clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:21 am
The irony is that if you knocked just 1-2% off your defence budget
The US spends about $1.2 trillion dollars on medical care, plus another $234 billion on medical related tax deductions. There are also out of pocket and state level expenditures, but let's just use the $1.2 trillion figure as the baseline for the US.
The UK spends about £176.5 billion.
The population of the US is about 331 million, the UK is about 67.9 million. Doing some simple math, the US spends $3,625 per person, while the UK spends £2,599 or $3,414 per person.
Forget cutting the defence budget; the US would save money adopting a British-style health care system.
Re: 92% of house republicans hate diabetics
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:34 pm
by Fuzzy Necromancer
clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:21 am
Insulin is free on the NHS here in the UK. All critical to life meds are. I'm not bringing this up for any nationalistic reason, i'm bringing it up to prove that the US could make it free just fine if it wanted to.
The irony is that if you knocked just 1-2% off your defence budget, you would still have an army that is more than capable of doing anything that it needs to do and yet also be able to do things such as give the dying their medicine. Never ever buy the idea that your government ''does not have the money'' to help you with your medical bills because it simply is not true.
Trust me , I know
Re: 92% of house republicans hate diabetics
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:46 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
So wait, was this an actual survey that revealed their feelings about diabetic people or is it just figurative titling?
Re: 92% of house republicans hate diabetics
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:24 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
There wasn't a survey, it was me referring to them voting against a price cap for insulin.
Re: 92% of house republicans hate diabetics
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:56 pm
by Mickey_Rat15
So if the result of this is shortage of insulin or a rise in insurance costs, does that mean the people who voted for this hate diabetics or hate the public in general?
The idea that there are no perverse effects from government making simplistic dictates like this is the only way you can argue that anyone who is against this measure "hates diabetics".
Re: 92% of house republicans hate diabetics
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:02 pm
by Mickey_Rat15
clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:21 am
Insulin is free on the NHS here in the UK. All critical to life meds are. I'm not bringing this up for any nationalistic reason, i'm bringing it up to prove that the US could make it free just fine if it wanted to.
The irony is that if you knocked just 1-2% off your defence budget, you would still have an army that is more than capable of doing anything that it needs to do and yet also be able to do things such as give the dying their medicine. Never ever buy the idea that your government ''does not have the money'' to help you with your medical bills because it simply is not true.
Insulin is not free. The UK government has socialized the payment of the costs and has made completely opaque the relationship between what an individual pays and the actual costs. Meanwhile, it is greedy for more taxes paired with a creepy veneration for a state bureaucracy.