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"Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows"
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 2:32 am
by ProfessorDetective
Re: "Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows"
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 3:30 am
by McAvoy
There are many states with trigger laws that the moment this gets overturned all the laws become into effect.
I think a total of 26 states will more or less make this their state law. Mind you some of these laws outright abortion and some others ban it in such a short time that no way in hell would a woman would know.
Then apparently there is a concern about the so called abortion pills.
There is also some commercial that shows a Mom with her pregnant daughter being pulled over by cops in suspicion of getting an abortion.
Re: "Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows"
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 4:20 am
by sayla0079
This is ridiculous, while I don't agree with abortion I support a woman's right to choose and it should only be between the woman and her Doctor. The Government needs to stay out of it now.
Re: "Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows"
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 6:02 am
by ProfessorDetective
Going by my digging, this will NOT stop at abortion. The next step will basically be removing the IDEA of interpreting the Constitution. If it isn't explicitly outlined or isn't "deeply rooted in American history and tradition" (whatever that means), it's not a right.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/05/10967323 ... d-abortion
Re: "Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows"
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 6:32 am
by clearspira
In an era of 99% effective contraception I do not think that there is an excuse for most abortions. Just my opinion.
Re: "Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows"
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 7:23 am
by sayla0079
That is fair. I'm not saying people have to agree with abortion just that they shouldn't judge others for getting one for their own reasons and to let them be. there are cases like ectopic pregnancy where they have to abort or the person WILL die.
Re: "Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows"
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 8:42 am
by ProfessorDetective
Yeah, many of the trigger laws do NOT account for abortions for reasons of assault, abuse, or health risks and often count miscarriages, intentional or otherwise, as abortions.
Re: "Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows"
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 8:45 am
by Draco Dracul
clearspira wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 6:32 am
In an era of 99% effective contraception I do not think that there is an excuse for most abortions. Just my opinion.
They're going to go after contraception pretty soon as well.
Re: "Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows"
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 12:48 pm
by TGLS
clearspira wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 6:32 am
In an era of 99% effective contraception I do not think that there is an excuse for most abortions. Just my opinion.
Given that Louisiana is looking into to passing a law that declares life begins fertilization, and some birth control stops fertilized embryos from implanting, there goes 99% effective contraception. And well, banning abortion like this still leaves out cases of rape, cases where the fetus would be unable to live outside the womb, and cases where the 99% effective fails.
Re: "Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows"
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 12:51 pm
by CmdrKing
Moreover abortion is a necessary medical procedure for many reasons. Even in a world where 100% of pregnancies were wanted and deliberate, abortion would be necessary.
But then, the fact this will get people killed, both by creating more unsafe elective abortions and by delaying or making inaccessible medically necessary abortions is a desired outcome for the people who push to criminalize it. An atmosphere of fear and uncertainty which advantages men of wealth and influence and gives them more control over “their” women (and those that are not women at all, but such people would never acknowledge that) is The Point of such laws.