Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him

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Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him

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Fiona Hill says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him
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Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.
Russian President Vladimir Putin and President Donald Trump attend a meeting in Helsinki on July 16, 2018.Brendan Smialowski/Getty Images
Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

"He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.

Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration.

Russian President Vladimir Putin often became frustrated with President Donald Trump over his lack of knowledge on geopolitical issues, Fiona Hill said, adding that this played into Moscow's decision on the timing of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

One of the reasons Putin invaded Ukraine with President Joe Biden in the White House was that he expected the US to "sue for peace" and thought it would be better to deal with Biden than trying to negotiate with someone like Trump, whom the Russian leader had "to explain everything to all the time," Hill, who served as the top Russia advisor on the National Security Council under Trump, said Tuesday at a Chicago Council on Global Affairs event.

"He thought that somebody like Biden — who's a transatlanticist, who knows all about NATO, who actually knows where Ukraine is, and actually knows something about the history, and is very steeped in international affairs — would be the right person to engage with," Hill said.

"You could see that he got frustrated many times with President Trump because he had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said, adding: "Even though he loves to be able to spin his own version of events, he wants to have predictability in the person that he's engaging with."

A number of Trump's former advisors have said the ex-president had a poor grasp of global affairs. The former national security advisor John Bolton, for example, said Trump once asked whether Finland was part of Russia.

Similarly, Trump's former White House chief of staff Gen. John Kelly also once said Trump "doesn't know any history at all, even some of the basics on the US," says Hill's new book, "There Is Nothing for You Here: Finding Opportunity in the Twenty-First Century," which was published last year.

In the book, Hill writes that Trump's meager comprehension of international affairs was a "major liability" for US national security.

"Whenever he got to meetings and the conversation started, it seemed like the first time he was hearing things from world leaders," she writes.

Trump did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.

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Seems about right, but I might be biased since Trump has shown that lack of knowledge when in office.

Unless there is a video of Putin and Trump and showing all of this, it's just hearsay.
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This actually was a legal issue where the Mueller Report said that he couldn't decide if they should go forward prosecuting Trump's son who met with an FSB agent in a New York City hotel with Giuliani to gain information on Hillary Clinton. The FSB agent used spy speak and talked about them making a token gesture by asking them to overturn the ban on exporting Russian babies via adoption (which Obama had put a hold on due to, well, the human trafficking). Then Trump Junior got mad and left because he didn't understand why they were talking about babies versus blackmail material on Hillary.

Which left Mueller going, "I'm not sure you can prosecute a man for being too dumb to commit a crime."

The Steele Dossier confirmed this story and said the FSB agent said, "These are the dumbest men I have ever met in my life."
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 1:11 am This actually was a legal issue where the Mueller Report said that he couldn't decide if they should go forward prosecuting Trump's son who met with an FSB agent in a New York City hotel with Giuliani to gain information on Hillary Clinton. The FSB agent used spy speak and talked about them making a token gesture by saying they'll overturn the ban on exporting Russian babies via adoption (which Obama had put a hole on due to, well, the human trafficking). Then Trump Junior got mad and left because he didn't understand why they were talking about babies versus blackmail material on Hillary.

Which left Mueller going, "I'm not sure you can prosecute a man for being too dumb to commit a crime."

The Steel Dossier confirmed this story and said the FSB agent said, "These are the dumbest men I have ever met in my life."
Yeah, that's the rumors I was hearing as this was starting to come to light: Russia TRIED to work with Trump's campaign to rig the election... but EVERYONE they made contact with either brushed them off, not realizing who they were talking to, or would get frustrated/confused over something (usually stemming from some kind of tunnel vision) and THEN brush them off. Russia gave up on the whole endeavor and Trump got elected regardless.
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Well when you elect a reality show conman with a business on the side, it doesn't surprise me at all that they are ill equipped to be politicians.

Some day, I wish the US passes some law that prevents the family of the president from being in the administration. It always felt like the King and his princes and his favorite princess.
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McAvoy wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 2:13 am Well when you elect a reality show conman with a business on the side, it doesn't surprise me at all that they are ill equipped to be politicians.

Some day, I wish the US passes some law that prevents the family of the president from being in the administration. It always felt like the King and his princes and his favorite princess.
Exactly while I had my issues with Bush (mainly due to the Afghanistan war) he at least didn't have his family in key positions in the presidency.
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sayla0079 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 2:48 am
McAvoy wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 2:13 am Well when you elect a reality show conman with a business on the side, it doesn't surprise me at all that they are ill equipped to be politicians.

Some day, I wish the US passes some law that prevents the family of the president from being in the administration. It always felt like the King and his princes and his favorite princess.
Exactly while I had my issues with Bush (mainly due to the Afghanistan war) he at least didn't have his family in key positions in the presidency.
I really cannot think of any president outside of course Hilary that involved so many family members in politics.

I remember there was a video I think around 2018 of Ivanka meeting with some world leaders and one or two basically brusher her off when she tried to talk to them. And she was there in place of her father.
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ProfessorDetective wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 1:41 am
CharlesPhipps wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 1:11 am This actually was a legal issue where the Mueller Report said that he couldn't decide if they should go forward prosecuting Trump's son who met with an FSB agent in a New York City hotel with Giuliani to gain information on Hillary Clinton. The FSB agent used spy speak and talked about them making a token gesture by saying they'll overturn the ban on exporting Russian babies via adoption (which Obama had put a hole on due to, well, the human trafficking). Then Trump Junior got mad and left because he didn't understand why they were talking about babies versus blackmail material on Hillary.

Which left Mueller going, "I'm not sure you can prosecute a man for being too dumb to commit a crime."

The Steel Dossier confirmed this story and said the FSB agent said, "These are the dumbest men I have ever met in my life."
Yeah, that's the rumors I was hearing as this was starting to come to light: Russia TRIED to work with Trump's campaign to rig the election... but EVERYONE they made contact with either brushed them off, not realizing who they were talking to, or would get frustrated/confused over something (usually stemming from some kind of tunnel vision) and THEN brush them off. Russia gave up on the whole endeavor and Trump got elected regardless.
Big fish wise, yes. But not everyone since the Mueller Report did result in a total of thirty-four individuals and three companies being indicted. Eight have pleaded guilty to or been convicted of felonies, including five Trump associates and campaign officials.

Manafort and Stone being the biggest (and Trump, of course, commuting)
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The main takeaway here is the assertion that Putin started his war with Ukraine because he thought Biden would appease him and be easy to roll. How many Ukrainians and Russians have died because of Putin's assessment of Biden's character?
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McAvoy wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 2:53 am
sayla0079 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 2:48 am
McAvoy wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 2:13 am Well when you elect a reality show conman with a business on the side, it doesn't surprise me at all that they are ill equipped to be politicians.

Some day, I wish the US passes some law that prevents the family of the president from being in the administration. It always felt like the King and his princes and his favorite princess.
Exactly while I had my issues with Bush (mainly due to the Afghanistan war) he at least didn't have his family in key positions in the presidency.
I really cannot think of any president outside of course Hilary that involved so many family members in politics.

I remember there was a video I think around 2018 of Ivanka meeting with some world leaders and one or two basically brusher her off when she tried to talk to them. And she was there in place of her father.
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