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Well... this is all rather exciting, isn't it? Its not often that a nuclear power finds itself leaderless. At time of writing, 39 MPs have resigned from their jobs. They are still MPs they just aren't doing anything. And obviously Boris himself has no real power because no one is listening to him.

For those of you outside of the UK wondering what got us here, Boris has effectively been kicked out of office due to lying and sleaze. The latest in a long line happened when a high ranking male MP sexually assaulted another male junior minister at a party and Boris KNEW that the man was a pervert when he hired him. A fact which he later outright denied until it was proven categorically that previous PM Theresa May has kicked the man out of his job for the same crime back in her day and Boris rehired him.

Its all kind of funny really. Boris has always attracted the insult of being ''Trump-Lite'' and right now he's proving it by refusing to leave. He hasn't stormed the Tower of London yet with a rabble but there is still time

I will say though, on one bright side, this whole catastrophe does demonstrate the differences between Britain and America. Boris breaks the rules multiple times and is kicked out by his party after two years. Trump started an insurrection - and six years later nothing has apparently happened to him. So much so that he has pretty strongly hinted that he will run again. The British system works. Kind of anyway.

The british system works? Remind me again, wasn't there a no confidence vote against BoJo just a few weeks back, which he won?

Madner Kami wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:55 pm The british system works? Remind me again, wasn't there a no confidence vote against BoJo just a few weeks back, which he won?

There's been more revelations since the beginning of June.

He won't resign, he's in until there's no actual way he can remain (I don't think he'd go full-on Trump if he lost an election). Even if it leaves him as the only person in government.

Riedquat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:45 pm Even if it leaves him as the only person in government.

If he was the only person left in government, surely all the (ex?)-Tories could get together and hold a vote of no confidence, and then direct the queen to ask whoever they like for prime minister to form a new government.

Madner Kami wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:55 pm The british system works? Remind me again, wasn't there a no confidence vote against BoJo just a few weeks back, which he won?

And now the backbenchers are changing the rules to have another one. That's the difference. In America they talked about impeaching Trump. In Britain we will get rid of this guy by hook or by crook.

TGLS wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:05 am

Riedquat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:45 pm Even if it leaves him as the only person in government.

If he was the only person left in government, surely all the (ex?)-Tories could get together and hold a vote of no confidence, and then direct the queen to ask whoever they like for prime minister to form a new government.

Aye. That's the thing about the Queen: she is our democracy buffer. Legally she still has veto power on a government - she just never exercises it.

And... he's gone.

TGLS wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:05 am

Riedquat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:45 pm Even if it leaves him as the only person in government.

If he was the only person left in government, surely all the (ex?)-Tories could get together and hold a vote of no confidence, and then direct the queen to ask whoever they like for prime minister to form a new government.

Well a bit academic now (or maybe not, since he's insisting at the moment on staying put until the leadership election is done), but probably not. Certainly not an internal Conservative party one; that happened last month, which he somehow passed, and their rules (which there was talk of changing, which rather defeats the purpose of rules and does smack a bit of "keep holding votes until we get the result I want", an attitude I loathe even when I agree with the outcome it's trying to get) mean not another for a year. The House of Commons could hold a no confidence vote on him as PM I think, which would be all MPs from all parties.

Amazing how the British can do that. Even have a Queen too.

Here, in the US impeachment is now amounting to a slap on the wrist.