Wokeness or Something

[clearspira]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgFr5ke ... lownfishTV

One of the lowest MCU debuts of all time. I'm not suprised. From the very first trailer I had my doubts and I guess that has carried on. As Buzz Lightyear's failed movie proved among many others, I don't think people want politics in their superhero movies.
I'm also very much inclined to believe that comic purists would not at all have been happy about the fact that she no longer has the correct power set.

[BBally81]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgFr5ke ... lownfishTV

One of the lowest MCU debuts of all time. I'm not suprised. From the very first trailer I had my doubts and I guess that has carried on. As Buzz Lightyear's failed movie proved among many others, I don't think people want politics in their superhero movies.
I'm also very much inclined to believe that comic purists would not at all have been happy about the fact that she no longer has the correct power set.

Except there is no actual politics in Ms. Marvel. Acknowledging her Muslim background isn't political. The Falcon And The Winter Soldier got political and that didn't really hurt its viewing figures, contrary to what online reactionaries like ClownFishTV claimed.

While Ms Marvel's US viewing figures for the premier don't sound too hot according to Samba TV, according to flixpatrol however, the show seems to be doing well in a lot of different markets.

https://flixpatrol.com/title/ms-marvel/

According to the site, Ms Marvel is Disney plus's number 1 title in markets like South Korea, Brazil, Hong Kong and Indonesia (a lot of people from Indonesia I communicate with online tell me the show is quite popular over there). As well as being in Disney plus's top 5 in markets like the US, the UK, France, Japan, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Mexico, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Turkey, Taiwan and Argentina.

As well being Disney+'s overall number 2 title according to flixpatrol, so maybe it's doing better than that Samba TV report made it out to be. It should be noted that Samba TV only measure data from selected opted-in Smart TVs, which means actual total households may be even higher.

Neither flixpatrol or Smart TV provide the full story on viewing figures.

Luckily there's another American TV show with a major Muslim lead and "political" themes, that's proven to be a massive success with viewers that some people tried to use the "Go Woke, Go Broke" argument on but were crushed by the show's success.

https://deadline.com/2021/12/cbs-tops-t ... 234902579/

[Winter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgFr5ke ... lownfishTV

One of the lowest MCU debuts of all time. I'm not suprised. From the very first trailer I had my doubts and I guess that has carried on. As Buzz Lightyear's failed movie proved among many others, I don't think people want politics in their superhero movies.
I'm also very much inclined to believe that comic purists would not at all have been happy about the fact that she no longer has the correct power set.

Except there is no actual politics in Ms. Marvel. Acknowledging her Muslim background isn't political. The Falcon And The Winter Soldier got political and that didn't really hurt its viewing figures, contrary to what online reactionaries like ClownFishTV claimed.

While Ms Marvel's US viewing figures for the premier don't sound too hot according to Samba TV, according to flixpatrol however, the show seems to be doing well in a lot of different markets.

https://flixpatrol.com/title/ms-marvel/

According to the site, Ms Marvel is Disney plus's number 1 title in markets like South Korea, Brazil, Hong Kong and Indonesia (a lot of people from Indonesia I communicate with online tell me the show is quite popular over there). As well as being in Disney plus's top 5 in markets like the US, the UK, France, Japan, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Mexico, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Turkey, Taiwan and Argentina.

As well being Disney+'s overall number 2 title according to flixpatrol, so maybe it's doing better than that Samba TV report made it out to be. It should be noted that Samba TV only measure data from selected opted-in Smart TVs, which means actual total households may be even higher.

Neither flixpatrol or Smart TV provide the full story on viewing figures.

Luckily there's another American TV show with a major Muslim lead and "political" themes, that's proven to be a massive success with viewers that some people tried to use the "Go Woke, Go Broke" argument on but were crushed by the show's success.

https://deadline.com/2021/12/cbs-tops-t ... 234902579/

You're talking to someone who's critiquing a show they don't seem to be actually watching and speaking for an audience they haven't been listing to because the overall reception for Ms. Marvel has been pretty positive and most fans of the comics have been okay with the change of her powers because everything else feels so faithful to the original comic.

Based on the reviews I've seen, between around sites I've gone to to look at with my own eyes, most fans have enjoyed the film though there is nothing about it that really stands out to them so far. Metacritic the reviews are more mixed but there's only about 137 reviews so far. Rotten Tomatoes are so far much more positive and I think there was about over 600 reviews there. And comments online by videos DON'T released or connected by Disney, have been overall positive. I know I'm using YouTube comments to try and gauge audiences reaction but it really is sadly one of the better methods I know.

As for the shows low viewer ship, which really means nothing in the grand scheme of things but let's just ignore that, this is show is being released opposite of a Star Wars show that fans of a series have been demanding for a long time now, wasn't that heavily marketed (more so then usual for a D+ show) and doesn't feature any big name Avenges or big name stars.

Moon Knight got a lot of marketing with a well known actor and the other MCU focuses mostly on some rather popular MCU characters. Ms. Marvel has the hardest job because it has to sell a show purely on it's own merits and does seem to be doing well and most first seasons are usually not that great with any show.

[clearspira]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgFr5ke ... lownfishTV

One of the lowest MCU debuts of all time. I'm not suprised. From the very first trailer I had my doubts and I guess that has carried on. As Buzz Lightyear's failed movie proved among many others, I don't think people want politics in their superhero movies.
I'm also very much inclined to believe that comic purists would not at all have been happy about the fact that she no longer has the correct power set.

Except there is no actual politics in Ms. Marvel. Acknowledging her Muslim background isn't political. The Falcon And The Winter Soldier got political and that didn't really hurt its viewing figures, contrary to what online reactionaries like ClownFishTV claimed.

While Ms Marvel's US viewing figures for the premier don't sound too hot according to Samba TV, according to flixpatrol however, the show seems to be doing well in a lot of different markets.

https://flixpatrol.com/title/ms-marvel/

According to the site, Ms Marvel is Disney plus's number 1 title in markets like South Korea, Brazil, Hong Kong and Indonesia (a lot of people from Indonesia I communicate with online tell me the show is quite popular over there). As well as being in Disney plus's top 5 in markets like the US, the UK, France, Japan, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Mexico, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Turkey, Taiwan and Argentina.

As well being Disney+'s overall number 2 title according to flixpatrol, so maybe it's doing better than that Samba TV report made it out to be. It should be noted that Samba TV only measure data from selected opted-in Smart TVs, which means actual total households may be even higher.

Neither flixpatrol or Smart TV provide the full story on viewing figures.

Luckily there's another American TV show with a major Muslim lead and "political" themes, that's proven to be a massive success with viewers that some people tried to use the "Go Woke, Go Broke" argument on but were crushed by the show's success.

https://deadline.com/2021/12/cbs-tops-t ... 234902579/

Go Woke, Go Broke is a concept that has proven itself true time after time after time. I fail to see how your link even comes close to proving this wrong when I am talking about superhero movies, and clearly stated that I am talking about superhero movies, and you are talking about some shitty cop show.

[clearspira]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgFr5ke ... lownfishTV

One of the lowest MCU debuts of all time. I'm not suprised. From the very first trailer I had my doubts and I guess that has carried on. As Buzz Lightyear's failed movie proved among many others, I don't think people want politics in their superhero movies.
I'm also very much inclined to believe that comic purists would not at all have been happy about the fact that she no longer has the correct power set.

Except there is no actual politics in Ms. Marvel. Acknowledging her Muslim background isn't political. The Falcon And The Winter Soldier got political and that didn't really hurt its viewing figures, contrary to what online reactionaries like ClownFishTV claimed.

While Ms Marvel's US viewing figures for the premier don't sound too hot according to Samba TV, according to flixpatrol however, the show seems to be doing well in a lot of different markets.

https://flixpatrol.com/title/ms-marvel/

According to the site, Ms Marvel is Disney plus's number 1 title in markets like South Korea, Brazil, Hong Kong and Indonesia (a lot of people from Indonesia I communicate with online tell me the show is quite popular over there). As well as being in Disney plus's top 5 in markets like the US, the UK, France, Japan, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Mexico, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Turkey, Taiwan and Argentina.

As well being Disney+'s overall number 2 title according to flixpatrol, so maybe it's doing better than that Samba TV report made it out to be. It should be noted that Samba TV only measure data from selected opted-in Smart TVs, which means actual total households may be even higher.

Neither flixpatrol or Smart TV provide the full story on viewing figures.

Luckily there's another American TV show with a major Muslim lead and "political" themes, that's proven to be a massive success with viewers that some people tried to use the "Go Woke, Go Broke" argument on but were crushed by the show's success.

https://deadline.com/2021/12/cbs-tops-t ... 234902579/

You're talking to someone who's critiquing a show they don't seem to be actually watching and speaking for an audience they haven't been listing to because the overall reception for Ms. Marvel has been pretty positive and most fans of the comics have been okay with the change of her powers because everything else feels so faithful to the original comic.

Based on the reviews I've seen, between around sites I've gone to to look at with my own eyes, most fans have enjoyed the film though there is nothing about it that really stands out to them so far. Metacritic the reviews are more mixed but there's only about 137 reviews so far. Rotten Tomatoes are so far much more positive and I think there was about over 600 reviews there. And comments online by videos DON'T released or connected by Disney, have been overall positive. I know I'm using YouTube comments to try and gauge audiences reaction but it really is sadly one of the better methods I know.

As for the shows low viewer ship, which really means nothing in the grand scheme of things but let's just ignore that, this is show is being released opposite of a Star Wars show that fans of a series have been demanding for a long time now, wasn't that heavily marketed (more so then usual for a D+ show) and doesn't feature any big name Avenges or big name stars.

Moon Knight got a lot of marketing with a well known actor and the other MCU focuses mostly on some rather popular MCU characters. Ms. Marvel has the hardest job because it has to sell a show purely on it's own merits and does seem to be doing well and most first seasons are usually not that great with any show.

All I know is, Marvel Phase 4 has been an absolute bust compared to 1-3 in terms of audience approval. Adopting the modern stories and characters has not worked. The only exception has been Spider-Man but that was always going to do well because its Spider-Man.
We've reached that point where the MCU is just another franchise. Makes money, but its cultural relevance is gone (again with the exception of the Big Names who will always draw in a crowd). And that's why of course that the X-Men and Fantastic Four are clearly on the horizon. Ms Marvel and the Eternals ain't ushering in the next Endgame.

[BBally81]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgFr5ke ... lownfishTV

One of the lowest MCU debuts of all time. I'm not suprised. From the very first trailer I had my doubts and I guess that has carried on. As Buzz Lightyear's failed movie proved among many others, I don't think people want politics in their superhero movies.
I'm also very much inclined to believe that comic purists would not at all have been happy about the fact that she no longer has the correct power set.

Except there is no actual politics in Ms. Marvel. Acknowledging her Muslim background isn't political. The Falcon And The Winter Soldier got political and that didn't really hurt its viewing figures, contrary to what online reactionaries like ClownFishTV claimed.

While Ms Marvel's US viewing figures for the premier don't sound too hot according to Samba TV, according to flixpatrol however, the show seems to be doing well in a lot of different markets.

https://flixpatrol.com/title/ms-marvel/

According to the site, Ms Marvel is Disney plus's number 1 title in markets like South Korea, Brazil, Hong Kong and Indonesia (a lot of people from Indonesia I communicate with online tell me the show is quite popular over there). As well as being in Disney plus's top 5 in markets like the US, the UK, France, Japan, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Mexico, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Turkey, Taiwan and Argentina.

As well being Disney+'s overall number 2 title according to flixpatrol, so maybe it's doing better than that Samba TV report made it out to be. It should be noted that Samba TV only measure data from selected opted-in Smart TVs, which means actual total households may be even higher.

Neither flixpatrol or Smart TV provide the full story on viewing figures.

Luckily there's another American TV show with a major Muslim lead and "political" themes, that's proven to be a massive success with viewers that some people tried to use the "Go Woke, Go Broke" argument on but were crushed by the show's success.

https://deadline.com/2021/12/cbs-tops-t ... 234902579/

Go Woke, Go Broke is a concept that has proven itself true time after time after time. I fail to see how your link even comes close to proving this wrong when I am talking about superhero movies, and clearly stated that I am talking about superhero movies, and you are talking about some shitty cop show.

No, it doesn't. Superhero media like Captain Marvel, The Falcon and The Winter Soldier, Shang Chi, The Batman, Moon Knight and Loki that have been accused of being "woke pandering" from these anti-woke outrage reactionaries prove that argument isn't true as they were big success with audiences. While we're at it, we can include Spider-Man: No Way Home to that list as a lot of the anti-woke crowd made a big stink about how they raceswapped characters like M.J and Flash Thompson in the MCU along with less known comic character like Ned Leeds who was white in the comics but is now more known because of his MCU counterpart, that ticks that "woke" box.

Audiences don't care about whether something is "woke" or not as long as they get some entertainment value out of it. That's the cold hard fact and you can't change that fact no matter how hard you try.

Again how is Ms. Marvel "political"?

And that "shitty cop show" alone destroys your "Go Woke, Go Broke" narrative as that show is a massive success with audiences despite ticking the same boxes that would be considered "woke garbage" by these reactionaries.

[Winter]

Go Woke, Go Broke is a concept that has proven itself true time after time after time.

Based on what? She-Ra, The Owl House, Amphibia, Warrior Nun, Horizon (Zero Dawn and Forbidden West) Elden Ring, Mass Effect: Legendary Edition, Dragon Age, Witcher (both the games and the show), Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, The Legend of Korra, Into the Spider-Verse, The Suicide Squad, Stranger Things, The Batman, Black Panther, Star Trek, the original Predator film, Star Wars (both the Original Trilogy and the Clone Wars along with Knights of the Old Republic), Encanto

(Long DEEP Breath)

Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts, Wayne Family Adventures, Tomb Raider: A Survivor is Born, Coco, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Wonder Woman, Superman, Godzilla vs. Kong, The Mitchells vs. the Machines, A Quite Place, Luca, Frozen, No Time To Die, Skyfall, Dune, Ghostbusters: Afterlife, West Side Story (2021), Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous, The Invisible Man (2020), Alita: Battle Angel, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Daredevil, Soul

(ANOTHER Long Deep Breath)

How to Train Your Dragon Trilogy, It, Doctor Sleep, Game of Thrones, Dreadnought, Fear Street, Life is Strange, Sense8, Arcane, John Constantine, Harley Quinn, RWBY, Red Dwarf, Euphoria and pretty much ANYTHING made by JMS.

Those are the ones JUST off the top of my head, there are more I'm likely not thinking of and ALL have been hugely successful with critics, audiences and have high viewership or box office returns.

And to cover one of my points within ONE of the series I pointed to, the Original Predator film. It could be counted as Woke as it has a hugely diverse cast and the three white American Men are all given less screen time and development then the rest of the cast and two are killed off early at the start of the second act.

There are FAR FEWER series that have woke elements to them that are bombs and the only notable ones I can think of is The Last of Us Part II and the Star Wars Disney Sequel Trilogy. And within the Disney Era of Star Wars itself most of the shows have reached for some kinda of wokeness and while I wouldn't call most of them successful it NOT because it has Woke in it. If you changed nothing else in the series and had it be as anti-woke as possible it would STILL be seen as bad or mixed

All I know is, Marvel Phase 4 has been an absolute bust compared to 1-3 in terms of audience approval. Adopting the modern stories and characters has not worked. The only exception has been Spider-Man but that was always going to do well because its Spider-Man.
We've reached that point where the MCU is just another franchise. Makes money, but its cultural relevance is gone (again with the exception of the Big Names who will always draw in a crowd). And that's why of course that the X-Men and Fantastic Four are clearly on the horizon. Ms Marvel and the Eternals ain't ushering in the next Endgame.

Again, what are you basing this on?

Most of Phase 4 HAS had more successes then misses.

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier , WandaVision, Loki, What If...?, Hawkeye, Spider-Ma: No Way Home, Moon Knight, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and yes Ms. Marvel have all been well received. The number of stories that have not been a major success I can count on ONE hand (Black Widow, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and Eternals) and none of them have been that badly received. Audience reviews are generally much higher then critics and all in the upper 70's for most of them.

And compared to phases 1-3 it's actually fairing just as well as Phase 2 which had the most mixed reception in the Infinity Arc. Iron Man 3, Thor: The Dark World and Avengers: Age of Ultron weren't as well received as their Phase 1 counterparts and in Phase 1 the only films that were seen as truly great was Iron Man and Avengers. The other Phase 1 films are well liked but many just saw them as fun popcorn flicks.

But going back to Phase 2, the films I mentioned were seen as a step down in quality by many fans at the time and when you break it down Phase 4 has had the most overall success in both film and TV. The first season of each Netflix show was good but the seasons after words and the Defenders Crossover, wasn't as well liked as the Avengers so taking that into account Phase 2 and 3 have MORE misses then hits even though many of those misses are still well liked or loved by fans.

Your opinion is your opinion but you're stating it as if it's somehow fact WITHOUT backing it up except from a group that does not include all the facts to better suit their argument. Evey show, novel, comic, game and movie I mentioned were ALL successful Phase 4, compared to Phase 1-3 has been been successful by the series' standards and the standards of fans.

I have presented facts to back up my side of the argument and you can check out the general reviews to get an idea for yourself how right or wrong I am. And it should be noted the general opinion of the show on this episode has been generally positive. Nothing to amazing but pretty good.

[clearspira]

Go Woke, Go Broke is a concept that has proven itself true time after time after time.

Based on what? She-Ra, The Owl House, Amphibia, Warrior Nun, Horizon (Zero Dawn and Forbidden West) Elden Ring, Mass Effect: Legendary Edition, Dragon Age, Witcher (both the games and the show), Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, The Legend of Korra, Into the Spider-Verse, The Suicide Squad, Stranger Things, The Batman, Black Panther, Star Trek, the original Predator film, Star Wars (both the Original Trilogy and the Clone Wars along with Knights of the Old Republic), Encanto

(Long DEEP Breath)

Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts, Wayne Family Adventures, Tomb Raider: A Survivor is Born, Coco, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Wonder Woman, Superman, Godzilla vs. Kong, The Mitchells vs. the Machines, A Quite Place, Luca, Frozen, No Time To Die, Skyfall, Dune, Ghostbusters: Afterlife, West Side Story (2021), Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous, The Invisible Man (2020), Alita: Battle Angel, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Daredevil, Soul

(ANOTHER Long Deep Breath)

How to Train Your Dragon Trilogy, It, Doctor Sleep, Game of Thrones, Dreadnought, Fear Street, Life is Strange, Sense8, Arcane, John Constantine, Harley Quinn, RWBY, Red Dwarf, Euphoria and pretty much ANYTHING made by JMS.

Red Dwarf is woke? That show that is at its core is about toxic masculinity?
Game of Thrones is woke? That show that has wall-to-wall bare tits, rape, and women in servile roles?
Harley Quinn is woke? Which version? It weren't the Suicide Squad one that got criticised for the hot pants by lefties.
Star Wars the OT is woke? What? That show that even at the time got criticised for its lack of black people, has ''that'' metal bikini, has a man forcibly kiss a woman?
Star Trek is woke? Really? Which series? Is it the one with the blonde in the catsuit? How about the one with the rape victim blaming? Or the one that refuses to acknowledge that gays exist?
The Predator film was woke? What? That film that is 1000% testosterone?
Sense8 was a commercial failure. As is everything non-Matrix related ever invented by the Wachowskis.

Do I need to go on? Half of this list sucks. Or we have a VERY DIFFERENT view as to what is woke.

[hammerofglass]

"Woke" just means "contains stuff conservative Culture Warriors complain about". They've appropriated it so thoroughly that nobody else uses it unironically anymore. Give somebody who isn't a straight white Christian cis man a speaking role and it's "woke".

[Winter]

Red Dwarf is woke? That show that is at its core is about toxic masculinity?

Mixed Race lead, black co-lead, feminine man co-lead. Only white guy is an ass who is not presented as this cool badass.

By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.

Game of Thrones is woke? That show that has wall-to-wall bare tits, rape, and women in servile roles?

Has a dwarf lead, presents women as bad ass (in the first for seasons anyway) men are shown to be vunrable and any who act like toxic assholes are presented as terrible people who no one wants to be like.

By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.

Harley Quinn is woke? Which version? It weren't the Suicide Squad one that got criticised for the hot pants by lefties.

The TV show and the James Gunn movie present Harley as a complex character, VERY diverse cast and the show and movie criticize SEVERAL modern elements of current American culture AND have feminist ideals to them.

By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.

Star Wars the OT is woke? What? That show that even at the time got criticised for its lack of black people, has ''that'' metal bikini, has a man forcibly kiss a woman?

Leia is a badass who kills the slug that forced himself on her, Han is presented as someone in over his head, Luke often gets his ass kicked, Lando is the hero who destroys the second Death Star.

By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.

Star Trek is woke? Really? Which series? Is it the one with the blonde in the catsuit? How about the one with the rape victim blaming? Or the one that refuses to acknowledge that gays exist?

You Do Realize that the series has ALWAYS been criticized for being woke. The original series got a LOT heat from stupid people who hated that it treated every race as equals and even got MARTEN LUTHER KING JR. Himself to go how important this show was the black community for representation.

TNG, Voyager and DS9 were the same with the latter two getting hit with criticism for for having a female and black lead.

Has the show been sexist, some times boarderline or outright anti LGBT and even racist, yes, and those are considered by fans and creators to be BAD Episodes or shameful moments of the franchise past that it has been working to make up for.

So, yes, By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.

The Predator film was woke? What? That film that is 1000% testosterone?

That kills the three white men who are American the first two are the first two kills of the film which thus then focuses on the rest of the cast and the lead is a Austrian Man and the only survivors is said Austrian Man and a Mexican woman.

By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.

Sense8 was a commercial failure. As is everything non-Matrix related ever invented by the Wachowskis.

Sense8 may have not done great commercially but it was a critical darling loved by critics and fans.

By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke this DIDN'T go Broke because the standards of GWGB this WAS a hit that even got a 2 hour special to wrap everything up because there was such an outcry from EVERYONE to let this series wrap things up.

Do I need to go on? Half of this list sucks. Or we have a VERY DIFFERENT view as to what is woke.

Shall we play a game?

Highlight the half of the series I listed that are considered bad by general audience and critics

She-Ra
The Owl House
Amphibia
Warrior Nun
Horizon (Zero Dawn and Forbidden West)
Elden Ring
Mass Effect: Legendary Edition
Dragon Age
Witcher (both the games and the show)
Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
The Legend of Korra
Into the Spider-Verse
Stranger Things
The Batman
Black Panther
Encanto
Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts
Wayne Family Adventures
Tomb Raider: A Survivor is Born
Coco
Avatar: The Last Airbender
Wonder Woman
Superman
Godzilla vs. Kong
The Mitchells vs. the Machines
A Quite Place
Luca
Frozen
No Time To Die
Skyfall
Dune
Ghostbusters: Afterlife
West Side Story (Both the Original and New Version)=
Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous
The Invisible Man (2020)
Alita: Battle Angel
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage
Daredevil
Soul
How to Train Your Dragon Trilogy
It
Doctor Sleep
Dreadnought
Fear Street
Life is Strange
Arcane
John Constantine
RWBY
Euphoria
Babylon 5

Oh, and you can only use likes from official critic sites AND have to take both critics and audience scores into account. No YouTube videos from creators who you share opinions with because 9 times out of 10 they don't represent the majority opinion.

This is an opinionated site and part of that means acknowledging the opinions of others and acknowledging that no one is in the right or wrong. If you think half these series suck, more power to you. But you are saying your opinion as if it is fact without evidence and I've had.

On this page alone you are one of the FEW people who dislike Ms. Marvel while the majority has said they like the show. The only person who's made a big deal about the shows "Political Message" is you. The show itself makes a MUCH bigger deal about the title character being a Superhero fan then her being Muslim even though her being Muslim is part of her character it's not the only thing it talks about.

And from the way you talk about the show I have to wonder if you've actually watched it or if your just getting your information second hand from those creators you happen to agree with.