clearspira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:29 pm
Red Dwarf is woke? That show that is at its core is about toxic masculinity?
Mixed Race lead, black co-lead, feminine man co-lead. Only white guy is an ass who is not presented as this cool badass.
By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.
Game of Thrones is woke? That show that has wall-to-wall bare tits, rape, and women in servile roles?
Has a dwarf lead, presents women as bad ass (in the first for seasons anyway) men are shown to be vunrable and any who act like toxic assholes are presented as terrible people who no one wants to be like.
By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.
Harley Quinn is woke? Which version? It weren't the Suicide Squad one that got criticised for the hot pants by lefties.
The TV show and the James Gunn movie present Harley as a complex character, VERY diverse cast and the show and movie criticize SEVERAL modern elements of current American culture AND have feminist ideals to them.
By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.
Star Wars the OT is woke? What? That show that even at the time got criticised for its lack of black people, has ''that'' metal bikini, has a man forcibly kiss a woman?
Leia is a badass who kills the slug that forced himself on her, Han is presented as someone in over his head, Luke often gets his ass kicked, Lando is the hero who destroys the second Death Star.
By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.
Star Trek is woke? Really? Which series? Is it the one with the blonde in the catsuit? How about the one with the rape victim blaming? Or the one that refuses to acknowledge that gays exist?
You Do Realize that the series has ALWAYS been criticized for being woke. The original series got a LOT heat from stupid people who hated that it treated every race as equals and even got MARTEN LUTHER KING JR. Himself to go how important this show was the black community for representation.
TNG, Voyager and DS9 were the same with the latter two getting hit with criticism for for having a female and black lead.
Has the show been sexist, some times boarderline or outright anti LGBT and even racist, yes, and those are considered by fans and creators to be BAD Episodes or shameful moments of the franchise past that it has been working to make up for.
So, yes, By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.
The Predator film was woke? What? That film that is 1000% testosterone?
That kills the three white men who are American the first two are the first two kills of the film which thus then focuses on the rest of the cast and the lead is a Austrian Man and the only survivors is said Austrian Man and a Mexican woman.
By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke.
Sense8 was a commercial failure. As is everything non-Matrix related ever invented by the Wachowskis.
Sense8 may have not done great commercially but it was a critical darling loved by critics and fans.
By the standards of "Go Woke, Go Broke" this is woke this DIDN'T go Broke because the standards of GWGB this WAS a hit that even got a 2 hour special to wrap everything up because there was such an outcry from EVERYONE to let this series wrap things up.
Do I need to go on? Half of this list sucks. Or we have a VERY DIFFERENT view as to what is woke.
Shall we play a game?
Highlight the half of the series I listed that are considered bad by general audience and critics
She-Ra
The Owl House
Amphibia
Warrior Nun
Horizon (Zero Dawn and Forbidden West)
Elden Ring
Mass Effect: Legendary Edition
Dragon Age
Witcher (both the games and the show)
Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
The Legend of Korra
Into the Spider-Verse
Stranger Things
The Batman
Black Panther
Encanto
Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts
Wayne Family Adventures
Tomb Raider: A Survivor is Born
Coco
Avatar: The Last Airbender
Wonder Woman
Superman
Godzilla vs. Kong
The Mitchells vs. the Machines
A Quite Place
Luca
Frozen
No Time To Die
Skyfall
Dune
Ghostbusters: Afterlife
West Side Story (Both the Original and New Version)=
Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous
The Invisible Man (2020)
Alita: Battle Angel
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage
Daredevil
Soul
How to Train Your Dragon Trilogy
It
Doctor Sleep
Dreadnought
Fear Street
Life is Strange
Arcane
John Constantine
RWBY
Euphoria
Babylon 5
Oh, and you can only use likes from official critic sites AND have to take both critics and audience scores into account. No YouTube videos from creators who you share opinions with because 9 times out of 10 they don't represent the majority opinion.
This is an opinionated site and part of that means acknowledging the opinions of others and acknowledging that no one is in the right or wrong. If you think half these series suck, more power to you. But you are saying your opinion as if it is fact without evidence and I've had.
On this page alone you are one of the FEW people who dislike Ms. Marvel while the majority has said they like the show. The only person who's made a big deal about the shows "Political Message" is you. The show itself makes a MUCH bigger deal about the title character being a Superhero fan then her being Muslim even though her being Muslim is part of her character it's not the only thing it talks about.
And from the way you talk about the show I have to wonder if you've actually watched it or if your just getting your information second hand from those creators you happen to agree with.