Pastor faces legal trouble for sheltering the homeless during a cold snap

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Pastor faces legal trouble for sheltering the homeless during a cold snap

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Why didn't the church "Dad's Place" make the necessary changes in order to be up to code? There's a lot of missing information here. Can't tell if we're looking at an overbearing city or reasonable safety codes being shirked by someone cloaking their negligence under claims of "doing good".
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Deledrius wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:18 amCan't tell if we're looking at an overbearing city or reasonable safety codes being shirked by someone cloaking their negligence under claims of "doing good".
Could be both. Though general experience let's me suspect it's a lot more of the later, than the former.
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It does not say safety codes but zoning codes. The place is listed as a business so it cannot allow sleeping, washing clothes, nor eating within it. Now I do not know Colorado, but here getting a place rezoned is practically impossible as it seems solely at the whim of bureaucrats.
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Yeah, that's why I wish someone had done the work in writing the article to supply context for what's going on. Just a few random facts and a couple of quotes don't do anything to tell me what's going on. It's a Rorschach test in written form.

I just hope they manage to help the people caught in the middle of this.
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It does seem like something that could have waited until it isn't lethally cold out either way.
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There's a lot of places where being a Christian is attacked by supposed Christians.
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:22 pm There's a lot of places where being a Christian is attacked by supposed Christians.
I've long believed that most Christians enjoy the IDEA of Christianity much more than actually being a Christian. They follow the teachings of Jesus when convenient and find excuses when it becomes inconvenient. A country that actually follows Jesus would have a stipulation in the law covering just this situation. It also wouldn't put spikes on park benches etc.

Hypocrisy is a universal thing, but it grinds my goat when someone claims to be following an example and then does the exact opposite. Especially if you genuinely do believe that you will have to account for your decisions to your maker one day.
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hammerofglass wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:38 am It does seem like something that could have waited until it isn't lethally cold out either way.
100%.

But it's also why I considered if there's not spin here where the folks who look like the bad guys aren't worried about that exact thing too. If the conditions were unsafe, then that's exactly what they were doing. Again, the lack of details means everything is speculation. I can imagine many situations that swing either way based on what we've been given. There are too many blanks to fill in.

Meanwhile, the people caught in the middle just need somewhere warm to be (and the article is instead focused on the fact there's a kerfuffle, which is the least important part, humanely-speaking).
clearspira wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:27 pm I've long believed that most Christians enjoy the IDEA of Christianity much more than actually being a Christian.
I think this is a human tendency for belief systems in general, not even just religious ones, unfortunately.
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There's been a growing movement in US Christianity specifically that basically throws out all the Christian parts. The Sermon on the Mount especially seems to be a problem for them, but really anything about how caring for others is good.
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