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Law says minors can't get rape testing without parental consent
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:25 pm
by Fuzzy Necromancer
https://blog.idahoreports.idahoptv.org/ ... t-parents/
Now why would a parent ever have a problem with their child getting a rape kit test? Hmm...
Re: Law says minors can't get rape testing without parental consent
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:14 am
by Nealithi
Well the article pointed out why. What would be better? The current law only allows 14 or older, rape like this can happen much younger. Do we make it not a health issue but a legal one? Person of any age comes in claiming rape they get tested and it goes into a police file?
Giving this to the police at first glance sounds good. I am too cynical to think it is that easy.
Re: Law says minors can't get rape testing without parental consent
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:22 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
Dude, this is cart blanch for fathers who rape their daughters to prevent the collection of medical evidence that may incriminate them.
Re: Law says minors can't get rape testing without parental consent
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 4:23 am
by Nealithi
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:22 am
Dude, this is cart blanch for fathers who rape their daughters to prevent the collection of medical evidence that may incriminate them.
Umm, yes? And the mothers that protect predators. I am not for this crime against humanity. My question is what is better? What way won't somehow be twisted into some new knife to be used against children?
Re: Law says minors can't get rape testing without parental consent
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 3:39 pm
by Durandal_1707
When a law is that obviously actively harmful, I'd say having no law is better.
Re: Law says minors can't get rape testing without parental consent
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 5:10 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
“So, what I’m going to do as a nurse, if a child comes in and says, ‘My stepdad did this to me,’ and mom says ‘she’s a liar, she’s been nothing but a liar since she’s 8 years old, this is not true. He would never do that.’ And I will tell you that happens all too often as well,” she said.
That doesn’t mean the state can’t intervene. “At that point, I’m calling law enforcement who will also initiate a call to CPS to do an assessment,” Wetherelt said.
Re: Law says minors can't get rape testing without parental consent
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:57 am
by Nealithi
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 5:10 pm
“So, what I’m going to do as a nurse, if a child comes in and says, ‘My stepdad did this to me,’ and mom says ‘she’s a liar, she’s been nothing but a liar since she’s 8 years old, this is not true. He would never do that.’ And I will tell you that happens all too often as well,” she said.
That doesn’t mean the state can’t intervene. “At that point, I’m calling law enforcement who will also initiate a call to CPS to do an assessment,” Wetherelt said.
Didn't the article say getting CPS involved could take days or more and make a rape kit useless? Thus not likely to help at all and in fact cause more harm?
The issue is we need faster responses. And the liar since she's 8 years old line makes me think the old law was bad too since it only allowed 14 and older to request a kit. I would say make if any age. But how would an eight year old even know to ask for a rape kit?
Re: Law says minors can't get rape testing without parental consent
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:57 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
Nealithi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 4:23 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:22 am
Dude, this is cart blanch for fathers who rape their daughters to prevent the collection of medical evidence that may incriminate them.
Umm, yes? And the mothers that protect predators. I am not for this crime against humanity. My question is what is better? What way won't somehow be twisted into some new knife to be used against children?
What is better is letting minors get rape testing without parental consent.
Re: Law says minors can't get rape testing without parental consent
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:23 am
by Nealithi
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:57 am
Nealithi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 4:23 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:22 am
Dude, this is cart blanch for fathers who rape their daughters to prevent the collection of medical evidence that may incriminate them.
Umm, yes? And the mothers that protect predators. I am not for this crime against humanity. My question is what is better? What way won't somehow be twisted into some new knife to be used against children?
What is better is letting minors get rape testing without parental consent.
Fuzzy, you do realize I agree with you, right?
My concern is laws are being put in place. They never remove a law, they put in another one to 'fix' the first problem. So since we cannot delete this disgusting . . . words fail me. Why would a law maker think something that could protect children needs to be removed. And no I do not believe every damned politician and person in authority wants to diddle children.
So a new law to fix this law needs to go out. But it also needs to be considered so it cannot be weaponized against the innocent.
Adjacent law, child porn laws. Laws intended to punish people harming children by taking sexually provocative photos. Two teen girls, (I believe they were 15 at the time?) took pictures of themselves in their underwear and sent them to their teen boyfriends. Who shared them. The girls were charged with and child porn and registered as sex offenders. The law meant to protect them was used against them due to it being used as an absolute.
So my question is what is an arguably
good law that undoes this travesty of one?
Re: Law says minors can't get rape testing without parental consent
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:00 pm
by Fuzzy Necromancer
And I'm saying what an arguably good law is. One that says "minors have a right to rape kit testing", so they dont' need parental consent, which is not really a concern because there is no way "access to rape kit testing" can be weaponized against somebody. I'm genuinely failing to see the conflict here.