Vance is definitely a better liar than Trump. He's still spouting the same nonsense but it's not obvious in that same "ranting crazy person" way.
Re: Vice Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:08 pm
by Nobody700
Vance is a liar but he's not a dementia ridden patient crazy man liar, so his lies are more reasonable and on brand.
Re: Vice Presidential Debate
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:49 pm
by CharlesPhipps
Nobody700 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:08 pm
Vance is a liar but he's not a dementia ridden patient crazy man liar, so his lies are more reasonable and on brand.
I mean, Vance is clearly not sundowning or suffering dementia, which I think we should probably accept DT is.
However, they're still ridiculous bald faced lies to the face of the public.
* Donald protected Obamacare
* Abortion is something he doesn't support a ban on
* That DT didn't kill the immigration bill
And his weird insistance Kamala could have done any of her initiatives given the Republicans have been blocking everything and SHE'S NOT THE PRESIDENT.
Re: Vice Presidential Debate
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:43 pm
by CmdrKing
Yeah like… it’s one thing to level that at Biden, the President has far more power than the average Dem cheerleader likes to admit, but the Vice President doesn’t… have that. Like, Dick Cheney is NOT a model to use for any other Vice President, they are never like that before or since
Re: Vice Presidential Debate
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:35 pm
by McAvoy
It was smoother than the presidental debate only because this was a debate among politicians who are trained in these things. Better talkers than whatever you would describe Trump's pattern of speech.
Vance still comes off as a snake. Wormy. Just willing to do or say anything to get more power. No doubt he would step on Trump's back if it suited him.
Nobody700 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:08 pm
Vance is a liar but he's not a dementia ridden patient crazy man liar, so his lies are more reasonable and on brand.
I mean, Vance is clearly not sundowning or suffering dementia, which I think we should probably accept DT is.
However, they're still ridiculous bald faced lies to the face of the public.
* Donald protected Obamacare
* Abortion is something he doesn't support a ban on
* That DT didn't kill the immigration bill
And his weird insistance Kamala could have done any of her initiatives given the Republicans have been blocking everything and SHE'S NOT THE PRESIDENT.
Look, be fair to Vance, he and the Republicans had to search and replace all their scripts with Kamala where Biden is supposed to be
Re: Vice Presidential Debate
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:03 am
by McAvoy
There is this notion that either the Vice president has more power than they think or Harris has been the power behind Biden. Or a combo of the above. Ignorance or conspiracy theory bullshit.
All it is, is just more Trump lies and bullying. Vance is just following the script because that is who he is.
Re: Vice Presidential Debate
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:07 am
by CharlesPhipps
McAvoy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:03 am
There is this notion that either the Vice president has more power than they think or Harris has been the power behind Biden. Or a combo of the above. Ignorance or conspiracy theory bullshit.
All it is, is just more Trump lies and bullying. Vance is just following the script because that is who he is.
I admit, to Vance's credit, I could see him struggling to have to justify and sanewash the endless amount of nonsense the moderators brought up to him.
"Donald Trump said that ET went on a killing spree with the Frito Bandito in Dallas, TX. What do you have to say?"
"Those were nicknames he had for real criminals."
"Really? Because he went on to say ET was such a good guy when he was befriending Drew Barrymore and that we should boycott Fritos now."