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45 Hands Out Candy and Insults to Children
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:48 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
https://www.glamour.com/story/trump-jus ... andy-weird
Handing out Halloween candy to children is perhaps the easiest political Gimme possible, maybe even easier than unequivocally saying "Nazis are bad". 45 screwed that up by insulting their parents and making comments about their weight.
...is this man spiritually incapable of NOT being evil and loathsome?
Re: 45 Hands Out Candy and Insults to Children
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:28 pm
by Admiral X
Yeah, it certainly is evil to think maybe kids should look out for their health during a time of year that they traditionally gorge themselves on junk food. Sure, it doesn't help that the man doesn't know how to talk, but that seems to be what got him elected.
Re: 45 Hands Out Candy and Insults to Children
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:57 pm
by Dînadan
To be honest I found the following more disturbing:
“I cannot believe the media just produced such beautiful children,” the President joked. They continued standing around as the cameras clicked. "You're going to grow up to be like your parents? Hmm, don't answer. That can only get me in trouble, that question."
Maybe this is just being taken out of context, but it almost sounds like he was trying to hit on the kids, or at the least he was saying he would do so if they were older.
Re: 45 Hands Out Candy and Insults to Children
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:45 pm
by The Romulan Republic
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote:https://www.glamour.com/story/trump-jus ... andy-weird
Handing out Halloween candy to children is perhaps the easiest political Gimme possible, maybe even easier than unequivocally saying "Nazis are bad". 45 screwed that up by insulting their parents and making comments about their weight.
...is this man spiritually incapable of NOT being evil and loathsome?
Pretty much.
Their are people on this Earth who are worse than Donald Trump in certain specific ways, but I am forever astounded by the shear comprehensiveness of his loathsomeness. Its like someone went down a checklist for "All the ways you can be an utterly abhorrent failure of a human being." No sin is too big, or too petty, for the Donald.
Admiral X wrote:Yeah, it certainly is evil to think maybe kids should look out for their health during a time of year that they traditionally gorge themselves on junk food. Sure, it doesn't help that the man doesn't know how to talk, but that seems to be what got him elected.
You'll play apologist for absolutely anything Trump does, won't you?
What's your excuse for him insulting the little kids' parents to their faces, because the parents are part of the media (otherwise known as the Constitutionally protected free press)?
Edits: Oh, and don't forget the possibly pedophilial undertones, as noted above.
Also: not being able to talk is no excuse. About half a President's job involves talking to people. So this defense amounts to saying "He's not a sociopathic pervert! Just mentally unfit for his job!"
Re: 45 Hands Out Candy and Insults to Children
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:54 pm
by Steve
The way I figure it, Trump probably isn't the first of our Presidents who was bad at speaking to people... but he's the first who combines that flaw with stunning levels of narcissism to the point that he doesn't acknowledge this fault and let his advisors and subordinates do most of the talking (either themselves or by making sure all remarks are pre-arranged).
Re: 45 Hands Out Candy and Insults to Children
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:26 pm
by Fuzzy Necromancer
Steve wrote:The way I figure it, Trump probably isn't the first of our Presidents who was bad at speaking to people... but he's the first who combines that flaw with stunning levels of narcissism to the point that he doesn't acknowledge this fault and let his advisors and subordinates do most of the talking (either themselves or by making sure all remarks are pre-arranged).
Gotta say you make a strong case.
Re: 45 Hands Out Candy and Insults to Children
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:48 pm
by Admiral X
The Romulan Republic wrote:
You'll play apologist for absolutely anything Trump does, won't you?
No. I just find it hilarious that some people are trying so hard to be offended by literally everything the man or a member of his family does.
What's your excuse for him insulting the little kids' parents to their faces, because the parents are part of the media (otherwise known as the Constitutionally protected free press)?
How was it an insult?
Edits: Oh, and don't forget the possibly pedophilial undertones, as noted above.
Again, are you just looking for shit to be offended at? I mean, I can be dense, and to be honest I was rather confused about what exactly he was trying to say (not to mention the source of the article is hardly unbiased), but I didn't get that out of that comment.
Also: not being able to talk is no excuse. About half a President's job involves talking to people. So this defense amounts to saying "He's not a sociopathic pervert! Just mentally unfit for his job!"
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I actually support Trump and will defend each and every little thing about him, but I'm not. You'll get no argument from me that he is hardly an ideal candidate for the job, as he doesn't seem to understand he can't run the country the same way he could a company, and that's provided he was even any good at doing that. And, no, the man can't talk, either.
Re: 45 Hands Out Candy and Insults to Children
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:24 pm
by Antiboyscout
The Romulan Republic wrote:
What's your excuse for him insulting the little kids' parents to their faces, because the parents are part of the media (otherwise known as the Constitutionally protected free press)?
Wow, constitutional protection means you are protected from being insulted? Who would have guessed...
Screw that, the same media that endlessly bangs on about freedom of the press (claiming that NOT giving them an INTERVIEW is somehow censorship) endlessly talk about censoring "fake news" and the Internet. If they don't support universal freedom of speech then I won't cry when they get censored let alone insulted.
Re: 45 Hands Out Candy and Insults to Children
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:34 pm
by Madner Kami
Antiboyscout wrote:Screw that, the same media that endlessly bangs on about freedom of the press (claiming that NOT giving them an INTERVIEW is somehow censorship) endlessly talk about censoring "fake news" and the Internet. If they don't support universal freedom of speech then I won't cry when they get censored let alone insulted.
It's funny how the political right constantly decries censorship and fake news, while at the same time demanding that the "left media" report the realities they percieve. What these guys do not realize is, that what they want is for Alex Jones to be displayed on the front page of the New York Times. Their problem is not that the "left media" is lying or censoring or not reporting on what you feel important or feels as if they are not reporting the way you want, but that the "left media" are not of the same opinion they are. The true censorship in this case is in complaining about people not saying what you want them to say.
Re: 45 Hands Out Candy and Insults to Children
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:49 pm
by The Romulan Republic
Antiboyscout wrote:The Romulan Republic wrote:
What's your excuse for him insulting the little kids' parents to their faces, because the parents are part of the media (otherwise known as the Constitutionally protected free press)?
Wow, constitutional protection means you are protected from being insulted? Who would have guessed...
That is such a blatant straw man that I have difficulty seeing it as anything other than a LIE.
Trump has a legal right to insult the media, although it is extremely poor form for a President to do so.
However, Trump's actions have gone beyond that, to trying to pressure companies to restrict their employees' speech, and calling for people to be fired, because they do not follow his values or his administration's line. Some of his statements could also be taken as trying to incite violence against the media.
Which likely DOES violate the First Amendment, and ought to be added to the list of charges at his impeachment.
Screw that, the same media that endlessly bangs on about freedom of the press (claiming that NOT giving them an INTERVIEW is somehow censorship) endlessly talk about censoring "fake news" and the Internet. If they don't support universal freedom of speech then I won't cry when they get censored let alone insulted.
Of course, you treat the entire media as a monolithic whole and an enemy (exceptions no doubt made for Fox News and Brietbart, because they're doubleplus goodthinkful). Because stereotypes make it easier to whip up hatred (and are thus a more useful tool for fascistic demagogues) than facts.