I finished Stargate. Well, almost...

[Yukaphile]

Oh yeah. Tough as fuck warrior. He'll give the enemy hell.

[clearspira]

I saw a good argument for the failure of this show only a couple of days ago as it happens.

SGU was hamstrung by having a very dated view of ''dark''. They thought that Lt James with her bouncing chest and some swearing was enough. But times were changing. The audience was ready for real sex and violence because only year or two later we would get Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead. Say what you like about Enterprise making the same mistake, but that was 8(?) years before this.

You may be wondering why they went ahead and made the show the way they did at all. Well again, the answer is ''Game of Thrones''. The TV landscape was changing forever and yet internet streaming was still a thing of the future. The creators quite simply would not have gotten funding for another SG-1 or another Atlantis because those shows were seen as old-fashioned.

[Yukaphile]

I wanted a good ethical debate about those stones. Again, Vala and Daniel. Those host bodies on Celestis. Granted, the Priors made sure to ascertain they were part of the resistance beforehand, but still... waking up about to be burned to death over something you didn't do, that's frightening as hell. You're becoming like the Goa'uld. I hear people complain that SGU is almost a direct ripoff of Ron Moore's Battlestar Galactica, yet that was just his disappointment over Voyager, wasn't it?

[Frustration]

IIRC, the creators of the show pitched their ideas for a SF program and couldn't get interest. Then it was suggested that there would be interest in another Stargate spinoff, and despite not liking the franchise, recast their ideas with that premise.

The result showcases all the worst aspects of soap operas while completely ignoring all the things that fans of the franchise were looking for. Neither SG-1 nor Atlantis were perfect (and I could complain about Atlantis all day long) but they established bounds that Universe didn't stay within. Being groundbreaking isn't necessarily a good thing, especially when you leave the blazed path to head for a destination no one is interested in.

I found myself watching Universe and thinking of alternate choices that would have made the episodes more interesting. They missed lots of interesting possibilities and refused to permit actual consequences to shape the ongoing story, always returning to the status quo.

[Yukaphile]

Wasn't Brad Wright the guy in charge of it? As in, it doesn't matter if he's the one in charge of a new show? You see it all the time, the creator's just there as an authority figure to soak up blame or accolades.

[J!!]

thoughts on Stargate Infinity?

[Yukaphile]

I have it downloaded, it is on my list, but the blatant breaking of established rules kinda has me feeling hesitant. Like matter traveling two ways through an open wormhole. If the creators don't care, why should I?

[Yukaphile]

Besides, it's not canon anyway, and this isn't even a case like Legends where some could make the argument it was always non-canon, so why did you stop it in 2014? It's a cartoon, not a book series. No one's clamoring for more Stargate Infinity, lol.

[Frustration]

Wasn't Brad Wright the guy in charge of it? As in, it doesn't matter if he's the one in charge of a new show? You see it all the time, the creator's just there as an authority figure to soak up blame or accolades.

Joseph Mallozzi is the name I get for executive producer when I search.

There were just too many things the show didn't think through - or eventually did, and did so poorly that it was even worse. The communication stones were a prime example. There is no ghost in the machine that can be skimmed off and transmitted. It would have made infinitely more sense if the comm stones intercepted and exchanged the sensory and motor control neurons, and transmitted those signals. Each mind would have been just where it always was, only feeling and directing a body somewhere else. But that's not what they did.

[Yukaphile]

I wanna say this, as the Battle of the Void and Battle of P3Y-229 ran almost concurrently, it was just... WOW. TWO extragalactic invasions almost within the span of a WEEK of one another. That was just so unbelievably cool, you just don't SEE that very much in other sci-fi verses. Even Star Wars only had the Vong invasion for Legends, and others you could name. The Ori has vibes reminiscent to the Borg invasion and Wolf 359, of course, and the one-shotting of Ha'taks is just scarily ominous given their power early on in the series... and the Battle of the Void taking placing outside a GALAXY was crazy cool, as they just pound on the Wraith ships with those awesome golden glowing Ancient drones, rushing through extreme empty space clogged by Wraith Darts. Though I notice similar patterns in the battles - both of them took out ships unnecessarily they could and should have saved, the Orion and the Korolev, and worse yet, they took out Colonel Chekhov and the legendary Garry Chalk to do so! BOOOO!