Did the Imperial Knights feel like a cheat in the Star Wars EU?

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Did the Imperial Knights feel like a cheat in the Star Wars EU?

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From the Legacy comics.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Knight

I always assumed they had a grey morality. I assume that woul;d take a toll on you or push you to the dark or light side easily, but they were nor Jedi nor Sith. They just walked the line easily between the Light Side and the Dark side. Too easily.
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They're very light grey, in last arc Draco states that they "serve the Force as embodied by the Emperor. And if the Emperor himself strays, to bring him back to the light- or kill him if he will not". So they're basically lightsiders, they just don't specifically follow Jedi doctrine. They're actually based on the Jedi from the earlier drafts where they were bodyguards for a benevolent Emperor that were overthrown by the Sith that backed a malevolent one.
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GandALF wrote:They're very light grey, in last arc Draco states that they "serve the Force as embodied by the Emperor. And if the Emperor himself strays, to bring him back to the light- or kill him if he will not". So they're basically lightsiders, they just don't specifically follow Jedi doctrine. They're actually based on the Jedi from the earlier drafts where they were bodyguards for a benevolent Emperor that were overthrown by the Sith that backed a malevolent one.
For better context it would be nice to know more about the Fel Empire.
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Agent Vinod wrote: For better context it would be nice to know more about the Fel Empire.
Well they never got around to fully explaining the origins of that, but it is implied that Roan Fel is a descendant of Jagged Fel and the end of the Fate of the Jedi series has Jaina Solo marry Jagged Fel and there is also talk about the concept of "Imperial Jedi".

So if we extrapolate, the post-civil war Imperial Remnant is essentially a military dictatorship under the increasingly aged Admiral Pellaeon who is open to peaceful coexistence with the New Republic/Galactic Alliance, but there are still plenty of Imperials who want to reconquer the galaxy (like Moff Lecersen). So if the Imperials are never going to accept democracy then it would make some sense for both Imperials and Jedi to accept the child of Fel and Solo as the new ruler of the Remnant, as they would be both the grandchild of the Empire's best TIE fighter pilot and the great-grandchild of Darth Vader while also being a lightsider who would not threaten the galaxy.
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Agent Vinod wrote:From the Legacy comics.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Knight

I always assumed they had a grey morality. I assume that woul;d take a toll on you or push you to the dark or light side easily, but they were nor Jedi nor Sith. They just walked the line easily between the Light Side and the Dark side. Too easily.
Sounds like wish fulfillment for the moral relativist or anti-hero fan crowd, not something that's consistent with how the Force is usually portrayed.

Also, it sounds like you are making the common mistake of equating "Light" and "Dark" with "Jedi" and "Sith".

The Light Side and Dark Side in Star Wars are metaphysical forces or, on the individual level, states of mind perhaps.

Jedi and Sith are organizations composed of different individuals. One seeks to adhere to the Light Side, the other follows beliefs that incline one toward the Dark Side, but one can be a Lightsider without being a Jedi (see Ashoka in Rebels), or a Darksider without being a Sith (see the Nightsisters for example).

For that matter, one can be a Jedi and fall to the Dark Side, and I suppose one could call themselves a Sith and follow the Light Side, though I have yet to see a canon example that I can recall.
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The Romulan Republic wrote:
Agent Vinod wrote:From the Legacy comics.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Knight

I always assumed they had a grey morality. I assume that woul;d take a toll on you or push you to the dark or light side easily, but they were nor Jedi nor Sith. They just walked the line easily between the Light Side and the Dark side. Too easily.
Sounds like wish fulfillment for the moral relativist or anti-hero fan crowd, not something that's consistent with how the Force is usually portrayed.
How the Force is very inconsistent in my eyes.
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I'd bet good money that the Ahsoka's silver lightsabres were inspired the Imperial Knights' with them both being lightsiders but not Jedi. There's no moral relativism in Legacy, the story is just more complex so that it seems that way at the beginning, everything falls into place by the end.
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Didn't know that about the lightsabers. Interesting.
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I think they're a failed philosophy that will inevitably end up being corrupted or ending up being Jedi Light. The principles of absolute monarchy are incompatible with the Light Side of the Force.
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GandALF wrote:I'd bet good money that the Ahsoka's silver lightsabres were inspired the Imperial Knights' with them both being lightsiders but not Jedi. There's no moral relativism in Legacy, the story is just more complex so that it seems that way at the beginning, everything falls into place by the end.
You could already have them in Kotor 2. Who knows...
CharlesPhipps wrote:I think they're a failed philosophy that will inevitably end up being corrupted or ending up being Jedi Light. The principles of absolute monarchy are incompatible with the Light Side of the Force.
Star Wars has plenty of fairy tale logic in it...
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