Star Trek: Picard Season 2

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Frustration wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:42 am So, how much philosophical questioning of Picard's new status has the shown done? Any pondering as to whether he's the same being as the Picard who died, or a different one? Any wondering whether he could be copied? Or whether he could, or should, be made functionally immortal?
As far as I can tell, none.

And honestly I haven't even seen discussions even in fan groups talk about it.

Discovery did have that episode where that blue haired Trill person got a body like Picard's and there was some sort of mention about how difficult it is for a kind transfer between the two bodies.

It's not like he got a body younger than even in his TNG days either. Still a slow old man. And he doesn't seem to have any real enhancement either. Not like Data for example.

It really should not have been done in with Picard if they were never going to use it. I got a gut feeling that Picard will die in Season 3 anyway since it's been stated that is where the show will end. And my bet they will kill Picard off so Stewart's role with him permanently ends.

If that theory is true then it would make the Android body and his fake out death in season 1 even more pointless. Just as bringing back that disease he had in All Good Things into season 1. They could have easily incorporated that disease into Picard giving him a limited amount of time, three seasons to fix, clean up or whatever before his end.
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Robo Picard was a bad decision. They could've had Soong use his understanding of cybernetics to cure the disease. The rest of Picard's body was in as good working order as you could wish for given his age. And his consciousness would be hooked into that network with Data in order to know the repairs are working properly and have a chance to incorporate into his active nervous system.

And Discovery did explain it was a procedure that's had such a low rate of success it's not worth the resources to attempt in most cases. Still, a bad idea.
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So they'll put it off whenever they want it to succeed, but insist they can't revolutionize everything because. For reasons.

This is awful science fiction.
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Episode 8:
-Yeah, Picard and Guinan will be locked in that basement... I guess for 400 years, eh? "That should be just about right."
-So after spending last season being mind controlled into killing a bearded guy, now Jurati is being mind controlled into killing another bearded guy... Kurtzman was probably like "It's like poetry, they rhyme". Maybe we'll get a trifecta in the final season.
-"Raffi, someone needs to call you out on your behavior... oh look, a convenient distraction"
-Jurati is ripping off Li batteries because she needs lithium metal from them (even though those car batteries look more like lead-acid batteries) for the assimilation process. First off, NO. I don't care how strong Jurati became, there's no way she could do that. Lithium batteries (be it Li-ion or just Li metal) are built like fortresses, I've taken apart many Li batteries in the past (of both kind) and let me tell you, even with proper tools you cannot properly cut them apart, because Second, they can be shorted very easy and if that happens, it's bad, worse than those weak sparks shown in the cars. When you've spent most of your free time taking apart Li batteries, you'll know what I mean.
-So when did that ICEvil officer had time to write down Rios' story? He stopped writing the moment Rios started speaking. Either the guy has perfect memory or he had a body camera. But I rewatched that scene, and the only thing the guy had was the walkie-talkie mic on his shoulder. So no body camera. LAPD had body cameras when they tried to arrest Raffi and Seven. Guess the writers too forgot about that, even though there's no way the Wells guy wouldn't have found out about that.
-And after Picard and the gang went to the clinic they still didn't retrieve Rios' combadge? Really? You know what would have made more sense? That ICE retrieved the combadge during the clinic raid, and Wells found it when he searched through the stuff ICE got from that raid. Or you know... the combadge Picard dropped in Guinan's bar?
-Q is now suffering from space Parkinsons? He feels like he's dying but instead he just suffers? They better have a good reason why this happens.
-"Show me on the doll where the Vulcan touched you"
-So ultimately it doesn't matter what happens to Kore, since Renee's discovery somehow renders Soong's science obsolete, or whatever... with two episodes left, I doubt they'll show the discovery aka "intelligent microorganism" in the last two episodes. Mainly cause now they have a SWAT-Borg for more pointless action scenes for the finale, because they don't have budget for space battles.

I have no idea what is even going on. The first half of the episode was meh, but at least the goal was clear. However the latter half is nothing but confusing. They better have some CGI porn in the finale to compensate for the fact that this season was nothing but time padding.
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All things considered I thought that episode was good development.
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Mabus wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:44 pm "Sci-fi is about now" Nope, sci-fi is the use of imaginative and futuristic concepts such as advanced science and technology, space exploration, time travel, parallel universes, and extraterrestrial life, either set in the future or in an alternate world (but not fantasy world, since at that point it's just fantasy) to explore the human condition or how human behavior and society react to those hypothetical concepts.
Neil Gaiman wrote:SF is a difficult and transient literature at the best of times, ultimately problematic. It claims to treat of the future, all the what-ifs and if-this-goes-ons; but the what-ifs and if-this-goes-ons are always founded here and hard today. Whatever today is.
To put it another way, nothing dates harder than historical fiction and science fiction. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s historical fiction and his SF are of a piece – and both have dated in a way in which Sherlock Holmes, pinned to his time in the gaslit streets of Victorian London, has not.
Dated? Rather, they are of their time.
Trust me SF is almost always about the now in which it's creator made the story. Gaiman was actually writing about one of the vanishingly rare exceptions to this rule of thumb.
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Mindworm wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:45 pm
Mabus wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:44 pm "Sci-fi is about now" Nope, sci-fi is the use of imaginative and futuristic concepts such as advanced science and technology, space exploration, time travel, parallel universes, and extraterrestrial life, either set in the future or in an alternate world (but not fantasy world, since at that point it's just fantasy) to explore the human condition or how human behavior and society react to those hypothetical concepts.
Neil Gaiman wrote:SF is a difficult and transient literature at the best of times, ultimately problematic. It claims to treat of the future, all the what-ifs and if-this-goes-ons; but the what-ifs and if-this-goes-ons are always founded here and hard today. Whatever today is.
To put it another way, nothing dates harder than historical fiction and science fiction. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s historical fiction and his SF are of a piece – and both have dated in a way in which Sherlock Holmes, pinned to his time in the gaslit streets of Victorian London, has not.
Dated? Rather, they are of their time.
Trust me SF is almost always about the now in which it's creator made the story. Gaiman was actually writing about one of the vanishingly rare exceptions to this rule of thumb.
This, but also the bold in the quote is self evident.
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Episode 9:
-I didn't have much hope for the season finale, but the writers have taken a page from GoT season 8 and decided that the most "exciting" firefight in the series should take place in near-darkness. While thankfully not as dark as the Winterfell battle thank God, I couldn't stop laughing how the most advanced Borg mall cop squad had to rely on freakin' laser pointers to find their targets, which only had the effect of scaring their targets away. What, the Borg Queen forgot to give them night vision? The Borg eyepiece was described in the past as being capable of seeing most of the entire EM spectrum, surely the Queen could have had those nanoprobes she used to (partially) assimilate the mercenaries to at least give them IR vision, I mean the assimilation did alter their eyes for a moment.

-Also why did the Observer had a late 24th century Romulan disruptor rifle in 2024? It sure as hell didn't come from Rios' ship.

-"Janeway went to bat for me, threatened to resign" :lol: You know that there are other ways to solve this issue without having to threaten to resign from your position, who writes this crap? For fucks sake, by "Nemesis", Janeway was promoted to not just an admiral, but to a very high ranking admiral, if she really wanted Seven to join Starfleet, she would have just snapped her fingers and it would have been done. People in military, politics or businesses don't end up high positions by lottery, they have friends and contacts in most if not every branch of the government and rely on their tacit approval and influence to get where they want to get. And such things have happened in OldTrek, so the Federation isn't that different from our modern day world.

-Ah yes, the hologram Elnor is just as dumb as his flesh and blood counterpart. Apparently using handguns in close quarter battle is not a good idea, but a long sword somehow is. :lol: What, his programming couldn't have included point the gun at target and shoot? I guess Jurati must have thought of that scene from "Pulp Fiction" from Zed's shop.

-Why did Seven beamed those Borg soldiers into the bedrock near Picard? Why not... in space? Stargate Atlantis did it better with that human-form Replicator.

-So what condition was Picard's mom supposed to have? PTSD? Depression? Schizophrenia? BPD? Cause all she did was appear depressed and then she just offed herself. And where is Picard's brother? Nah, who cares.

-Oh and Borg-Jurati is now a thing and she just decided to leave. With their only mean of going back to the future. And they just let her go. OK...

I don't even know what to make of this episode. It's the second to last episode of the season and very little has changed significantly. Are they seriously gonna cram the rest of the plotlines in the final episode? Or are they gonna wrap it all in season 3? It's the season finale yet for some reason I feel like we're at episode 4. I get the sensation that the story barely progressed at all.
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It's almost as though they're more interested in subscriptions than viewership, and are creating lots of filler to pad out Paramount+...
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Frustration wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:02 pm It's almost as though they're more interested in subscriptions than viewership, and are creating lots of filler to pad out Paramount+...
A reminder that the only thing people watch on Paramount Plus is Star Trek, Big Brother, and the Good Fight.

People hate NuTRek being widely successful but it is the most successful thing they're showing.

You may hate it or like it but it's Paramount Plus's Tiger King.
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