Mass Effect and Pronouns

For all topics regarding speculative fiction of every stripe. Otherwise known as the Geek Cave.
User avatar
hammerofglass
Captain
Posts: 2615
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:17 pm
Location: Corning, NY

Re: Mass Effect and Pronouns

Post by hammerofglass »

ProfessorDetective wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:38 am
hammerofglass wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:41 pm There's actually a side NPC conversation in Andromeda where the Asari gender and pronoun situation gets spelled out:


youtu.be/NEbueLMDyZY
That clip needs WAY more views, if only so that the chuds might see it and pitch yet another fit.
There were a couple with more views but that was the only one I could find with good audio.
...for space is wide, and good friends are too few.
User avatar
CharlesPhipps
Captain
Posts: 4937
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:06 pm

Re: Mass Effect and Pronouns

Post by CharlesPhipps »

I feel like trying to treat the Asari as a serious alien race is an exercise in futility because they're Space Amazons.
User avatar
Madner Kami
Captain
Posts: 4049
Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:35 pm

Re: Mass Effect and Pronouns

Post by Madner Kami »

CharlesPhipps wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:09 am I feel like trying to treat the Asari as a serious alien race is an exercise in futility because they're Space Amazons.
As far as I can tell, they replicate asexually through parthenogenesis. During gestation, they implant a personality construct onto their offspring, which is based on traits of the Asari mother and whatever the mother percieves from whatever the "father" is.

Logically, their replication process doesn't necessitate the exchange of bodily fluids and I very much doubt, that their "plumbing" accomodates for the needs of other species, so either sex with other species is much more messy and needs some proper hygiene afterwards, or your only choices are oral and anal. Or maybe Asari have an cloaca, which is even less fun to think about.
"If you get shot up by an A6M Reisen and your plane splits into pieces - does that mean it's divided by Zero?
- xoxSAUERKRAUTxox
User avatar
CharlesPhipps
Captain
Posts: 4937
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:06 pm

Re: Mass Effect and Pronouns

Post by CharlesPhipps »

Madner Kami wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:41 am
As far as I can tell, they replicate asexually through parthenogenesis. During gestation, they implant a personality construct onto their offspring, which is based on traits of the Asari mother and whatever the mother percieves from whatever the "father" is.

Logically, their replication process doesn't necessitate the exchange of bodily fluids and I very much doubt, that their "plumbing" accomodates for the needs of other species, so either sex with other species is much more messy and needs some proper hygiene afterwards, or your only choices are oral and anal. Or maybe Asari have an cloaca, which is even less fun to think about.
By contrast, I imagine they breed by exchanging DNA because it's a space opera and that's the way I say it works.

:)

But I understand fans who want a harder scifi.
User avatar
Madner Kami
Captain
Posts: 4049
Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:35 pm

Re: Mass Effect and Pronouns

Post by Madner Kami »

CharlesPhipps wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:14 pm
Madner Kami wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:41 am
As far as I can tell, they replicate asexually through parthenogenesis. During gestation, they implant a personality construct onto their offspring, which is based on traits of the Asari mother and whatever the mother percieves from whatever the "father" is.

Logically, their replication process doesn't necessitate the exchange of bodily fluids and I very much doubt, that their "plumbing" accomodates for the needs of other species, so either sex with other species is much more messy and needs some proper hygiene afterwards, or your only choices are oral and anal. Or maybe Asari have an cloaca, which is even less fun to think about.
By contrast, I imagine they breed by exchanging DNA because it's a space opera and that's the way I say it works.

:)
The game literally disagrees with you. This is from the ingame-codex:
The asari were the first species to discover the Citadel. When the salarians arrived, it was the asari who proposed the establishment of the Citadel Council to maintain peace throughout the galaxy. Since then, the asari have served as the mediators and centrists of the Council. An all-female race, the asari reproduce through a form of parthenogenesis. They can attune their nervous system to that of another individual of any gender, and of any species, to reproduce. This capability has led to unseemly and inaccurate rumors about asari promiscuity. Asari can live for over 1,000 years, passing through three stages of life. In the Maiden stage, they wander restlessly, seeking new knowledge and experience. When the Matron stage begins, they "meld" with interesting partners to produce their offspring. This ends when they reach the Matriarch stage, where they assume the roles of leaders and councilors.
CharlesPhipps wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:14 pmBut I understand fans who want a harder scifi.
Mass Effect got more space opera-y over time, but it started out as Hard SciFi. The writers went out of their way to create an internally consistent setting. This was one of the reasons for why the game got so big in the first place.
"If you get shot up by an A6M Reisen and your plane splits into pieces - does that mean it's divided by Zero?
- xoxSAUERKRAUTxox
User avatar
hammerofglass
Captain
Posts: 2615
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:17 pm
Location: Corning, NY

Re: Mass Effect and Pronouns

Post by hammerofglass »

Real-life parthenogenic species have all the same squishy bits as females in similar species.

I also vaguely remember Peebee mentioning she'd had sexual partners before Ryder but not melding partners, but I don't remember enough context to find it.
...for space is wide, and good friends are too few.
Post Reply