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Should All Cut Romances in Mass Effect be Restored? (Read Before Commenting Please)

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By all cut romance I mean should JACOB'S cut romance with Male Shep be Restored? I mean no one is going to romance him, in a fan pool a few years ago all romances were ranked and Jacob was rated as the one character no one would romance with more people willing to romance Morinth then Jacob.

And keep in mind Morinth will kill you if you romance her meaning people would rather die then romance Jacob, he's that bad. And in the end he's still going to cheat on you and get married to some woman he knew for a few months instead of waiting six months to get back with Shepard like literally every other romance option.

So, should that romance be restored?

Honestly, I think yes just because if given the option I want to see cut content that was cut for stupid reasons to be back in the game and cutting same sex romances because Fox News was throwing a hissy fit is stupid. I would restore all the romance options that were cut even the bad ones should be put back in even knowing that it's likely no one will see them and no one wants this. It's only fair to see something brought back and see the original vision restored, warts and all.
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I think it would have been better to have Ashley and Kaiden bi from the beginning and other romances like Tali.

However, it's probably a ship that has sailed with the Legendary Edition.

It's not Skyrim after all.

I'd also prefer them to make a non-shit ending if they were going to change things.
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I'm talking about changes that could be made by way of restoring cut content that fans have been able to restore which highlights that BioWare could have been lying on being unable to restore said content when LE came out. All the original audio files are still in the game which includes LE with only a handful of lines that simple weren't recorded which could be fixed by just getting some of the voice actors back or hiring talented actors who sound like them to record those few lines.

Things like the original mission where we went to get Liara has a whole first part that was completely cut out but still in the game files which is currently being restored in mods, the cut romances, conversations even things as simple as just showing more war assets (which there is cut dialogue in the game so it can be done).

The general idea isn't to do a remake but to just restore content that was cut for whatever reasons. Some cut content wouldn't be included like the cut conversation between Shepard and Sovereign as it's just a retread of the conversation we had with it on Virmire and ruins the pacing of the climax but other stuff was cut due to rushing the game out or just stupid reasons like homophobia.
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Winter wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:03 pm I'm talking about changes that could be made by way of restoring cut content that fans have been able to restore which highlights that BioWare could have been lying on being unable to restore said content when LE came out. All the original audio files are still in the game which includes LE with only a handful of lines that simple weren't recorded which could be fixed by just getting some of the voice actors back or hiring talented actors who sound like them to record those few lines.

Things like the original mission where we went to get Liara has a whole first part that was completely cut out but still in the game files which is currently being restored in mods, the cut romances, conversations even things as simple as just showing more war assets (which there is cut dialogue in the game so it can be done).

The general idea isn't to do a remake but to just restore content that was cut for whatever reasons. Some cut content wouldn't be included like the cut conversation between Shepard and Sovereign as it's just a retread of the conversation we had with it on Virmire and ruins the pacing of the climax but other stuff was cut due to rushing the game out or just stupid reasons like homophobia.
I know what you said but no one would bother with that unless it was a re-release or remake.
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:35 pm
Winter wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:03 pm I'm talking about changes that could be made by way of restoring cut content that fans have been able to restore which highlights that BioWare could have been lying on being unable to restore said content when LE came out. All the original audio files are still in the game which includes LE with only a handful of lines that simple weren't recorded which could be fixed by just getting some of the voice actors back or hiring talented actors who sound like them to record those few lines.

Things like the original mission where we went to get Liara has a whole first part that was completely cut out but still in the game files which is currently being restored in mods, the cut romances, conversations even things as simple as just showing more war assets (which there is cut dialogue in the game so it can be done).

The general idea isn't to do a remake but to just restore content that was cut for whatever reasons. Some cut content wouldn't be included like the cut conversation between Shepard and Sovereign as it's just a retread of the conversation we had with it on Virmire and ruins the pacing of the climax but other stuff was cut due to rushing the game out or just stupid reasons like homophobia.
I know what you said but no one would bother with that unless it was a re-release or remake.
Well, in that case it is still possible. BioWare needs a win and remastering their older games could work. And while ME has a remaster in LE there's still a chance it could be remastered again for current gen as it's was made for the older gen (though obviously can be played on current gen thank you backwards compatibility).

And again is mostly a hypothetical question, if ME gets another remaster should they restore the cut romances which includes the worst romance in the BioWare canon?
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I take issue with it being called the worst. Aribeth, Anders, and Darmas all outright betray everything your character stands for and kill a ton of innocent people in their romance paths, two of them tricking you into being directly complicit. Jacob just cheats on you and dumps you.
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Make Jack Bi, like she was going to be before they got spooked by Fox News. That'd be the big one for me.
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hammerofglass wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 2:13 am I take issue with it being called the worst. Aribeth, Anders, and Darmas all outright betray everything your character stands for and kill a ton of innocent people in their romance paths, two of them tricking you into being directly complicit. Jacob just cheats on you and dumps you.
I think the reason many see Jacob as the worst romance is not only that he cheats on you but he also is boring and never suffers any consequences for anything he does.

You can kill Anders for his betrayal, Aribeth can also be killed and not a whole lot of people in universe like her that much after what she did and you can still beat the ever loving shit out of Darmas and have him arrested and I think killed I'm not sure.

The worst Jacob gets is a slap on the face and a few harsh words... in a DLC. Literally every squad mate NOT named Jacob Taylor can or WILL die. Jacob cheats on you and gets a happily ever after no matter what.

Also most of the character characters you mentioned have something going for them to make them interesting even if they're infuriating. I will say that I hate Anders (DA2 Exclusive) more then Jacob but he has his moments and he was at least fun in Awakening.

And that's why I find Jacob's romance to be the worst.
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Winter wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 2:39 am
hammerofglass wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 2:13 am I take issue with it being called the worst. Aribeth, Anders, and Darmas all outright betray everything your character stands for and kill a ton of innocent people in their romance paths, two of them tricking you into being directly complicit. Jacob just cheats on you and dumps you.
I think the reason many see Jacob as the worst romance is not only that he cheats on you but he also is boring and never suffers any consequences for anything he does.

You can kill Anders for his betrayal, Aribeth can also be killed and not a whole lot of people in universe like her that much after what she did and you can still beat the ever loving shit out of Darmas and have him arrested and I think killed I'm not sure.

The worst Jacob gets is a slap on the face and a few harsh words... in a DLC. Literally every squad mate NOT named Jacob Taylor can or WILL die. Jacob cheats on you and gets a happily ever after no matter what.

Also most of the character characters you mentioned have something going for them to make them interesting even if they're infuriating. I will say that I hate Anders (DA2 Exclusive) more then Jacob but he has his moments and he was at least fun in Awakening.

And that's why I find Jacob's romance to be the worst.
Fair, they're all at least interesting stories (also I have "Bad Romance" stuck in my head now). The only real competitor for blandness I can think of is Corso, and he's at least fun to tease.
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