Just rewatched Indiana Jones and the last Crusade

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I am religious in real life. In the movie, of course, liberties are taken.

You talking about the mythology that plays a major part of the Indiana Jones movies?

More precisely that supernatural elements are needed for a lot of the devices and objects in Indiana Jones with no explanation but Rule of Cool abounds.

God, presumably, was needed to give those chalices their power.

But we don't question that oddly specific miracle.

Funny thing is you can interpret movies as a social reflection metaphor to the same extent you're seemingly supposed to with the bible. Kinda meta in this case (in either the philosophical or general sense). Maybe a little blasphemous too. It's like reducing everything to Shakespeare, but maybe taking a few more steps back.

[Beastro]

One thing that always irked me about the Indy movies is how, at least until the Crystal Skull, he was fighting Nazis. Yes, Nazis. And then the Soviets. Wow, how subtle.

Because it's a movie made in heavy part with the involvement of a Jewish guy who wanted go into things through the lens of pulp.

And no, this isn't me dredging up current issues, this is handled in Roger Ebert's reviews of the films and why he was happy Crusade went back to Nazi's, since his impression was the entire series soul is sticking it to them.

The opening: One has to realize that 5 years went by between Temple of Doom and Last Crusade. The opening is to bring everyone on a quick nostalgia trip to refresh them before continuing one. They did much the same, only improved in places with Crystal Skull by setting it at the warehouse where we know the Ark was stored (Even if that failed given how old and grumpy Ford is).

If I found the Grail, I think I'd destroy it, deny it to other people - unless I could gain enough wealth to do some good for enough people to make a difference.

Cute. I am not the religious type but if I came across an artifact that heavily supported, if not outright proved the existence of a deity I don't think my first thought would be "oh, this proves me wrong so I must destroy it." That's exactly the same attitude that coming from a religious zealot you would decry as insane, yet when it comes to your personal beliefs you carry it as a badge of honor.

It's extremely telling that, if finding out God exists and actually meeting Him, it wouldn't be "why do these things happen, what does it mean, and what don't I understand?" It's, "everything you do is wrong, let me tell you how to do your job." Very humble.

However, if God asks for a starship you are well within your right to be inquisitive as to why.

Such ignores the troubles Yukie is dealing with in his personal life that are the source of his clearly upset mind.

It's Christians who preach easy forgiveness, isn't it? Even to those who don't really deserve it. And one has to question if God is the same way. Let's all this horrible shit happen on Earth he could stop in a heartbeat to create a true paradise, and yet... will let the worst monsters among us ascend to the highest levels of heaven simply because "dem vibes" is good when you arbitrarily forgive someone for some of the worst things you can do to someone. That speaks to a creator that is too alien to comprehend or is apathetic at best.

Easy forgiveness? Look up the bloody defintion of contrition and ponder everything it entails. The last thing it is is like social media mea culpa crap.

Too alien to comprehend?

I don't know you beyond what you post here, but it's clear what your anger and bitterness over life is doing to you, man. That is a key part of forgiveness, especially for those beyond your ability to forgive. You put the poison down you sit there drinking thinking shit over and move on even if those you forgive are not worthy of it.

So many foes you want to fight and strike down, but not the ones you need to confront: Deal with your family issues you've expressed here and the impact they've had on you.

I'm willing to bet like so many other things, any issues you have over the concept of God have more to do with your father and his actions than anything else.

Well, all that stuff is why I left the church anyway. I want truly impartial justice, especially for the assholes here who escape justice during their lives for the most reprehensible conduct, then have the gall to try and feel "slight regret" near the end of their lives. Who offer a deathbed confession, or perhaps an anonymous note, which is just a hollow gesture given some of their crimes.

Then consider you conduct in this life, how you'd face such a situation and if contrition is really what you'd be expressing or not, especially keeping in mind the sexual interests you've posted about here unsolicited that rub against you're fury over sexual assault.

I love how in back-to-back posts you first say how terrible it is to consider that some people are judged and damned, and then immediately state that other people need to be judged and damned. Essentially what you are saying is that YOU get to decide what is right and wrong, not other people.

Eternal damnation is a terrible thing, unless Yukaphile thinks you deserve it, then burn heathen!

Such is in all our minds when we're consumed in anger and pain as he is.

[Deledrius]

The opening: One has to realize that 5 years went by between Temple of Doom and Last Crusade. The opening is to bring everyone on a quick nostalgia trip to refresh them before continuing one. They did much the same, only improved in places with Crystal Skull by setting it at the warehouse where we know the Ark was stored (Even if that failed given how old and grumpy Ford is).

I really wish I knew why the modern obsession with "Remember This?!" referential nostalgia is so popular, despite it being deeply grating and destructive towards suspension of disbelief. It undermines worldbuilding by making everything small and connected, ignoring the extreme coincidence, and says "Hey, you're watching a sequel to another film and not a world where living, breathing people are interacting!"

And I say this as a big fan of those things that get referenced. It's like someone shoving your favorite food on a plate right under your face and relentlessly insisting you eat it.

[Eishtmo]

It's an easy way to get people to like your stuff. Then you don't have to work to create something memorable, just throw in a reference and you're good.

[Deledrius]

It's an easy way to get people to like your stuff. Then you don't have to work to create something memorable, just throw in a reference and you're good.

Right, that's the obvious intent, but I suppose I just don't get how that works on people. It throws me out of the film/show.