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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:07 pm How does everyone feel about the ship interior? I'm personally indifferent to it, though I liked the holograms and wish there was more involving them.
Ambivalent too. Mixed on the holograms as well, they fit the scene well enough but I'm not convinced that waving your hands in the air makes a particularly good (inaccurate and tiring) user interface. I'd use it to do things like pick a star for navigation in 3D but general buttons etc. be something you touch; for some things a physical device is still the best.
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I suspect the La Sirena was designed to be a priority transport (fast and able to handle itself should it find itself in trouble). And the big open space is its hold. It also gives an asthectic similar to the old sailing ships with the bridge open to the main deck (just in front of it rather in back). Note the power plant is in the back.

I thought it was an okay design. The idea was it did not have the glamour of Starfleet's ships of the line. I also liked the logical progression of Emergency Holograms.

As for the holographic interface, it might not be prevalent. For all we know it was a flash in the pan and the La Sirena was just one of the ships built during the fad.
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Al-1701 wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:31 am Something that I had been thinking about is they missed an opportunity with the ancient synthes. They could have tied them into into the race that gave V'Ger it's ship. I mean, a civilization of machines that had been so for so long they had forgotten organic life had originally created them.
This is because the show runners did not want to make the show too hard for all the non sci fi fans and haters that might accidentally watch the show. Picard is already a bit heavy with "you need to watch The Next Generation and Voyager and the last couple Next Gen movies" to get this show. And see lots of people that are not sci fi fans or hate sci fi have either never watched and episode of Star Trek or have accidentally watched like three random ones. So when this person comes home, trips and falls and their TV accidentally turns on the show, they get all confused.

But, for some beyond dumb reason, most TV shows are written for the clueless casual viewer that does not like or even hates the show, and NOT for the fans.
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Zargon wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:10 pm Picard is already a bit heavy with "you need to watch The Next Generation and Voyager and the last couple Next Gen movies" to get this show.
There was a bit of reliance on existing characters. Some that were important to Picard like Riker and Troi made sense to appear (and didn't need much introduction anyway) - they're the people you might expect him to turn to. Some others were a bit more random and small universe.
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Mabus wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:40 pm To paraphrase Chuck, "this is your once in a lifetime chance, don't blow it": the show had the perfect premise: a world post-TNG/DS9/VOY, that has mostly recovered from the Dominion War; many species that didn't participate in the war, like say, the Tholians, Gorn, Nausicaans, Orions, Sheliak, Kovaalans, Mazarites, Vissians, maybe even the Xindi if they're still around have slowly taken advantage of this perceived weakness and expanded into other systems; You could even have a sort of parallel Federation made up of the less aggressive species if you want; or maybe they decide to usurp the Federation from beneath by placing spies and saboteurs; the supernova that destroyed Romulus has delivered a decapitation strike to the Romulan Empire and the recently reconstructed Klingon Empire has occupied the chaotic former Romulan Empire, which has further escalated tensions with the Federation; you can even say that Martok was assassinated and the new Chancellor has decided to bring back glory to the Empire; he also banished Worf from the Empire, and this could lead to a nice backstory for Dorn's Captain Worf series that he wants to make; some parts of the Romulan Empire have managed to survive and are being helped under the table by the Federation, with the help of the Vulcans that desire reunification; The Romies have lost most of their fleet so they have very little ships laying around; so basically the Maquis, only this time it's the Romulans; with many actors still wanting to return, either for a small cameo or longer role you can still please many instead of none; you can even fit Stewart's pet politics into the show, since the state of the Federation and its allies isn't that different; and you don't even need to have Stewart play Picard as in TNG if he really dislikes it so much since he doesn't have to appear too much; hell, you could even have each of TNG, DS9 or VOY main or side character share their view on this new world...
But no, instead of actually bringing in competent writers and producers that actually care about the source material, that actually care enough to create a plan for the story and don't just throw in scenes after scenes, and give enough time for the graphic designers to finish the CGI in time, as well as editors that butcher scenes, or, you know some love for their work, they decided to bring in Alex Kurtzman, a man known to turn to shit everything he touches, Michael Chabon who while won a Pulitzer prize winner for writing books doesn't seem to understand that writing for TV is different than writing for books and spends most of his time explaining the plot and plot holes on his Instagram instead of the writing room, and the other writers that for some reason are just bland.
Can't write a good show, everything has to be rushed and lazy, how else are we gonna compete with HBO, Netflix, Disney+, Peacock, Amazon Prime, etc.
ALL OF THIS IN MY FACE RIGHT NOW!

Seriously this is brilliant. Fair better then anything we got in STD OR STP. Oh ya we few references (Member Berries) to TNG/Vovager and thats about it. This new period is extremely bland and uniteresting with apparently all the leaders being complete idiots. Throw in bad guys stolen straight from Mass Effect and just the screwing up of Picard and many other iconic Trek character while giving us a bunch of unlikable nobodies

Picard hurt worse then Discovery. Discovery was at least a prequel that could only do so much damage. Picard had the potential to move Trek forward and yet it didn't. It moved it further into the never ending mess that was Discovery. It had the perfect chance not too but didn't.

I need a bloody drink right now. Cause after this its back To Michael God damn Burnheim and her crew of fools to furthur screw up Trek with season 3.
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Gekired wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:14 pm I need a bloody drink right now. Cause after this its back To Michael God damn Burnheim and her crew of fools to furthur screw up Trek with season 3.
Seems to me you have problem. Not drinking problem but one that's result you to drink over something like not liking something in sci-fi franchise.
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Mecha82 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:19 pm
Gekired wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:14 pm I need a bloody drink right now. Cause after this its back To Michael God damn Burnheim and her crew of fools to furthur screw up Trek with season 3.
Seems to me you have problem. Not drinking problem but one that's result you to drink over something like not liking something in sci-fi franchise.
Or maybe... and this is just a suggestion. I was using an over the top example to show my dislike of STP aka joking about needing a drink. Its something many reviewers do when reviewing things they dislike.

In real life I'm an Irish Pioneer meaning I don't drink alcohol period. So ya.
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episode 6 bugged me. Swindon Spok, Narek made such a big deal,Why would a robot that is designed to LOOK like a person Dream???
Ni ansa consider 2 scenarios:
Person says I had a wierd dream last night, I was in a swimming pool and a puppy with the face of Lord Salisbury said "Where's the spoons?"
Robot designed to look like a person says That's nothing, I dreamt daddy wouldn't let me look out the window.
versus
Person says I had a wierd dream last night
Robot designed to look like a robot says What is this thing called dreaming?

Episode 10 bugs me: they make such a big deal that Fed is isolationist and hates synths, but suddenly Fed is US cavalry and rides in to save the synths.

Likewise, the Soji casts the portal spell to summon the eldritch super Synths, then she says Nah, we're fine so the Eldritch super Synths just go away.

7 of 9 kills Sister of swindon Spock, she'll be back.
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Gekired wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:32 pm
Mecha82 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:19 pm
Gekired wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:14 pm I need a bloody drink right now. Cause after this its back To Michael God damn Burnheim and her crew of fools to furthur screw up Trek with season 3.
Seems to me you have problem. Not drinking problem but one that's result you to drink over something like not liking something in sci-fi franchise.
Or maybe... and this is just a suggestion. I was using an over the top example to show my dislike of STP aka joking about needing a drink. Its something many reviewers do when reviewing things they dislike.

In real life I'm an Irish Pioneer meaning I don't drink alcohol period. So ya.
These days on internet it's difficult to tell if some one is joking or not when fandoms tend to be very extreme and toxic.
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Gonna rant on this a little.

Finished the series, and it was honestly shocking how badly they bungled their own themes in the end run. Once again logic is sacrificed for the sake of spectacle, and not even impressive spectacle at that. Romulans were dealt a huge blow by the disaster on Romulus, but somehow this top secret organization can bring hundreds of copy and paste ships? They destroyed Utopia Planitia, but somehow Riker can conjure up hundreds of copy and paste ships to match them. Ships that are, according to Riker, the bestest and most powerful ships ever! It's laughable.

They devote themselves to a slow burn for six or seven episodes, and yet they somehow end up developing their actual threats in a huge rush at the end of the series. Audiences could be forgiven for missing what everyone's plans actually were, everything was so slipshod.

Worst of all, Picard dies, he has a conversation with Data about the importance of mortality, and then he's immediately resurrected? I don't know if I can think of a worse example of completely undermining your big serious theme in five minutes. Worse than Into Darkness. Exacerbated further by characters who just met him breaking down over his death. What exactly is the point?

I wasn't enamored with this show to begin with, but I thought it was ok. The torture porn soured me on it, but that was about the point where the show dove off a cliff (with the exception of the Riker-Troi stuff, which I liked). With all the hype and all the talk of an introspective, meaningful Star Trek show, their slow build up was heading toward a ridiculous, half-baked Mass Effect 3 rip off.
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