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Soji cast the Portal spell and summoned the Eldritch abomination to destroy all Life in the Universe.

But then, Picard speech.

If only H p Lovecraft had known about Picard speech. He would have written Comic Opera and Romance.

Romulans are right. Synths will destroy all Life because they have the Summon Abomination Super-power.

Episode 1 made such a big deal that Fed has lost its ideals and hates Synths. But then Episode 10 Picard speech. so Fed declares War on Romulus to protect Synths and Abominations.
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The first Romulans we meet at Picard's house and they are decidedly genuine people. The next Romulan we meet is the one that befriends the android copy we just learned about. He is a friendly character and exhibits a sense of humor depicting deception and duplicity.

Picard brings a bottle of wine to Raffi's house to commiserate about their former jobs.. The bottle is from the year '86.
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ChiggyvonRichthofen wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:44 pm Gonna rant on this a little.

Finished the series, and it was honestly shocking how badly they bungled their own themes in the end run. Once again logic is sacrificed for the sake of spectacle, and not even impressive spectacle at that. Romulans were dealt a huge blow by the disaster on Romulus, but somehow this top secret organization can bring hundreds of copy and paste ships? They destroyed Utopia Planitia, but somehow Riker can conjure up hundreds of copy and paste ships to match them. Ships that are, according to Riker, the bestest and most powerful ships ever! It's laughable.
I really don't see what is the problem here. Yes, the Romulans were dealt a huge blow by the destruction of Romulus. But what was before the Romulan Empire still exists and is still considered a threat. It is not without ressources. They are even able to administrate and defend the Artifact. We are also told since Episode 1 that the Tal Shiar is still a thing. That they have a fleet is no surprise. However, this fleet is no longer composed of huge D'Deridex warbirds, but of smaller, nimble ships.

Yes, Utopia Planitia Shipyards had been destroyed, with all the romulan rescue fleet. Do you really believe that they were the only shipyards in all the Federation? And it's not the whole fleet that has been destroyed. It's the fleet built for the romulan rescue mission. And the Federation has decided that it had not enough ressources to rebuild it. But that does not mean they had none to build and maintain a fleet of the toughest, fastest ships in Starfleet. After the Dominion War, you'd think that Starfleet would want to have real warships to defend the Federation. And those ships do not look that big either. They look much smaller than a Galaxy-class.
They devote themselves to a slow burn for six or seven episodes, and yet they somehow end up developing their actual threats in a huge rush at the end of the series. Audiences could be forgiven for missing what everyone's plans actually were, everything was so slipshod.
It was a bit slow, I will admit that. However, all the pieces of the puzzle are placed episode after episode and, of course, when all the pieces are put together, the plot unravels and things go faster. It was not "slipshod".
Worst of all, Picard dies, he has a conversation with Data about the importance of mortality, and then he's immediately resurrected? I don't know if I can think of a worse example of completely undermining your big serious theme in five minutes. Worse than Into Darkness. Exacerbated further by characters who just met him breaking down over his death. What exactly is the point?
I will give you that point. When Picard died, I thought it was a good ending to that character. Sad, of course, but good. And yeah, resurrecting him in the end was some kind of cheap cope-out. At least he remains mortal. As for characters who just met him breaking down over his death, I would give you Rios and maybe Seven of Nine. Elnor and Raffi knew him for years. He was a father figure to Elnor. So, yeah he would cry. And I found it very fitting that he found comfort in the arms of Raffi. Elnor has lost his parents while Raffi has lost her son (in a certain point of view).

Now, Rios just met Picard, but that does not mean Picard had no important impact on him. In fact, he had a profound impact on every member of his crew. Every crew member changes in some way during the show because of Jean-Luc Picard.
I wasn't enamored with this show to begin with, but I thought it was ok. The torture porn soured me on it, but that was about the point where the show dove off a cliff (with the exception of the Riker-Troi stuff, which I liked). With all the hype and all the talk of an introspective, meaningful Star Trek show, their slow build up was heading toward a ridiculous, half-baked Mass Effect 3 rip off.
I don't know. It seems to me that Picard had very serious themes. While it may not be the most profound show, it certainly is not the most superficial either.

Now of course the show is not without flaws. I was not impressed with Seven of Nine. I mean, Jeri Ryan was not bad, but Seven was just a big "meh" to me. I didn't care for her story arc. I don't know, I pictured her as a scientist in the Daystrom Institute after Voyager, not as some kind of vigilante in the Federation's Far West.
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Actarus wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:52 am I don't know, I pictured her as a scientist in the Daystrom Institute after Voyager, not as some kind of vigilante in the Federation's Far West.
I'd see her working to become the Fed's leading authority on fighting the Borg and her taking it up as a personal Crusade to do what she could to see what the AQ could do to roll back their expansion.
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None of you saw her with Chakotay? You know, stay at home mom.
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I can absolutely see 7 as a housewife. She has the motivation to be a better parent than hers were. It's more realistic than this alcoholic we've got now.
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Well that is how I feel Voyager ended. I didn't really like the direction of Chakotay courting her. He's just in the age demographic of 60-hour white-collar manager or over-the-hill sports coach. Not really something I wanted to see her fall into.

And so yeah, I can easily see her dropping all that to do what she does at some point. 7 wasn't quite coming into her own by the end of the show. Though I don't think Chakotay actually was that bad of a guy as far as someone that could walk her closer to individuality, it's just not very entertaining shipment.
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I can very much see Seven deciding that whatever she does she's going to do it on her own. She's neither a subordinate nor a leader, and not the type to sit back peacefully and get on with life either. Whether or not that quite fits the role they gave her in Picard I'm not sure, but I liked it (I also don't think she'd seek out situations that put her in to fights, whilst not at all shying away from them being a possibility in anything she did choose to do).
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Seven leaving Starfleet and doing her own thing in Star Trek Picard isn’t far off from what she did in Star Trek Online, this is from the Path to 2409 that was written almost 10 years ago to accompany Star Trek Online:
Volume 6, Chapter 4:

After more than two years with no reports of Borg activity in Federation space, Starfleet Command decided to dismantle its Borg task force and use those resources elsewhere. "We can't keep waiting for something that may never happen," said spokesperson Marie Durant. "And most of our analysts now agree that Voyager dealt a bigger blow in the Delta Quadrant than we initially believed."

One Federation expert on the Borg who did not agree with Starfleet Command's decision was former task force leader Seven of Nine. She left her role with Starfleet in protest of the decision and accepted an offer to continue her research at the Daystrom Institute. When pressed by the Federation News Service for comment, the former Borg said "The Borg will return. If the Federation is not prepared, it will be their end."
And this is not a coincidence either, the developers of Star Trek Online talked about in one of their livestreams how the team of Star Trek Picard came to their office to compare and get notes on what has been going on in Star Trek Online when they where developing Star Trek Picard.

While it’s obviously expected that they would want to tell their own story, it’s interesting to see elements from Star Trek Online bleed through into Star Trek Picard, and to see what new elements they add to the franchise that can be added to Star Trek Online, and I’m really happy that Seven is now less stoic and expressing more emotions, showing that she has grown more during her time back in the Alpha Quadrant, and I like that she joining the Fenris Rangers myself, and the Rangers themselves, its good that you don’t necessarily need to put on a Starfleet uniform to do good in the Star Trek universe.

And I think we can all agree that it’s about time Seven finally got rid of that awful cat suit and is now wearing actual clothes.
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Link8909 wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:04 am Seven leaving Starfleet and doing her own thing in Star Trek Picard isn’t far off from what she did in Star Trek Online, this is from the Path to 2409 that was written almost 10 years ago to accompany Star Trek Online:
Volume 6, Chapter 4:

After more than two years with no reports of Borg activity in Federation space, Starfleet Command decided to dismantle its Borg task force and use those resources elsewhere. "We can't keep waiting for something that may never happen," said spokesperson Marie Durant. "And most of our analysts now agree that Voyager dealt a bigger blow in the Delta Quadrant than we initially believed."

One Federation expert on the Borg who did not agree with Starfleet Command's decision was former task force leader Seven of Nine. She left her role with Starfleet in protest of the decision and accepted an offer to continue her research at the Daystrom Institute. When pressed by the Federation News Service for comment, the former Borg said "The Borg will return. If the Federation is not prepared, it will be their end."
And this is not a coincidence either, the developers of Star Trek Online talked about in one of their livestreams how the team of Star Trek Picard came to their office to compare and get notes on what has been going on in Star Trek Online when they where developing Star Trek Picard.

While it’s obviously expected that they would want to tell their own story, it’s interesting to see elements from Star Trek Online bleed through into Star Trek Picard, and to see what new elements they add to the franchise that can be added to Star Trek Online, and I’m really happy that Seven is now less stoic and expressing more emotions, showing that she has grown more during her time back in the Alpha Quadrant, and I like that she joining the Fenris Rangers myself, and the Rangers themselves, its good that you don’t necessarily need to put on a Starfleet uniform to do good in the Star Trek universe.

And I think we can all agree that it’s about time Seven finally got rid of that awful cat suit and is now wearing actual clothes.
That's really touching.

I really loved how they tied the Matrix games into the Matrix trilogy. This doesn't seem like too much of a stretch. And really this only mounts possibilities of a Picard sequel getting into the Borg coming back.
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