Dragon Age and Sexuality

For all topics regarding speculative fiction of every stripe. Otherwise known as the Geek Cave.
Fuzzy Necromancer
Overlord
Posts: 6321
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:57 am

Re: Dragon Age and Sexuality

Post by Fuzzy Necromancer »

Madner Kami wrote:But how do you figure out when or if a particular person is ok with you asking, when the very act of asking already is intruding in their personal space? You are pushing assumptions about the person onto the person itself, which is in an of itself, an act of agression and opression. You should pay more attention to recent developments in the fields of SJWisms.
Assuming you're not speaking rhetorically, you just have to ask in a place where the person is in a safe position to say "no", like you're not their boss, or you don't have them tied up and suspended over a vat of acid. Then, if they do say "no", you let the subject drop and don't push them to "just give you a chance" or "just the tip". And don't try to buy sexual services from anyone unless they have made it explicitly clear to you that they are a sex worker.

Also "don't come on to housemates who are a third your age" is a good general provision.

I don't see why people insist on pretending the question of consent is a big mystery, especially considering that very useful post we had with the video about tea.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
User avatar
GandALF
Officer
Posts: 450
Joined: Tue May 30, 2017 8:54 am

Re: Dragon Age and Sexuality

Post by GandALF »

They're video game characters though. Is it really consent if they're programmed to consent?
User avatar
SuccubusYuri
Officer
Posts: 345
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:21 pm

Re: Dragon Age and Sexuality

Post by SuccubusYuri »

I mean obviously not, it's just a shame Bioware so often decides OUR sexual preferences.

Inquisition was better at this, if you were female you could flirt with Cassandra and Dorian even though neither would want anything to do with you, but they did tend to lack a final "So wait would you EVER wanna bone?" conversation, so it kind of leaves the impression that the Inquisitor is a little bitch who can't talk about their feelings and just say what they mean and you dance around the issue like a bad exploitation film "Oh gosh my armor is so tight if only someone in this room could help me" xD

Also, as a lesbian, I feel absolutely cheated gay men got Dorian and we got...fucking...S-....Se-....Spang-....Sera. That is just weak. I mean sure we also get Josephine but that romance path is just dating Orlais with a face attached, damn frenchies...xD
User avatar
CharlesPhipps
Captain
Posts: 4956
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:06 pm

Re: Dragon Age and Sexuality

Post by CharlesPhipps »

I admit there was a bit of humor where the very large Bioware forum lesbian presence all collectively HATED Sera at once, mentioning all of them had assumed Cassandra would be an option and really excited about it.

Apparently, many of them had known people like Sera in life too as a bad ex girlfriend.

:)
User avatar
SuccubusYuri
Officer
Posts: 345
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:21 pm

Re: Dragon Age and Sexuality

Post by SuccubusYuri »

I just think most of us grew out of being attracted to....entitled 12 year olds, some time ago? She also has NO nuance, like, most companions will at least mark you "slightly approves" if you say something they don't agree with, but respect. NOT SERA! She has no empathy or analytical tendencies, so really unless you are -literally- playing a character like Sera, romancing her is a fucking CHORE, not a reward for a good character.
User avatar
CharlesPhipps
Captain
Posts: 4956
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:06 pm

Re: Dragon Age and Sexuality

Post by CharlesPhipps »

SuccubusYuri wrote:I just think most of us grew out of being attracted to....entitled 12 year olds, some time ago? She also has NO nuance, like, most companions will at least mark you "slightly approves" if you say something they don't agree with, but respect. NOT SERA! She has no empathy or analytical tendencies, so really unless you are -literally- playing a character like Sera, romancing her is a fucking CHORE, not a reward for a good character.


Eh, speaking as the limousine liberal faux rebel that I am, I admit to a certain degree of love for Sera as the obnoxious 13th century version of an Anonymous Hacker. She's not out to change the world but eager to make the lives of the rich and powerful miserable whenever they go overboard.

I also like the revelation she's actually a middle-to-upper-class young woman rebelling against her mother as her secret origin.
User avatar
SuccubusYuri
Officer
Posts: 345
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:21 pm

Re: Dragon Age and Sexuality

Post by SuccubusYuri »

Oh I do think she's fine in the right dynamic. Like I did bother a run through on her "Canonical" romance (fem qunari is her fetish) that was kinda cute in a BDSM kinda way, in part because she's much more amenable and less in-your-face, but she's a hard sell for someone's first, and typically your "genuine" playthrough. And people who do more than two full games is not a big market.

But still, compared to Dorian? Dorian is love. Dorian is life. I'D fuck Dorian xD It feels so unfair xD
User avatar
CharlesPhipps
Captain
Posts: 4956
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:06 pm

Re: Dragon Age and Sexuality

Post by CharlesPhipps »

SuccubusYuri wrote:Oh I do think she's fine in the right dynamic. Like I did bother a run through on her "Canonical" romance (fem qunari is her fetish) that was kinda cute in a BDSM kinda way, in part because she's much more amenable and less in-your-face, but she's a hard sell for someone's first, and typically your "genuine" playthrough. And people who do more than two full games is not a big market.

But still, compared to Dorian? Dorian is love. Dorian is life. I'D fuck Dorian xD It feels so unfair xD
Dorian is awesome, I admit.

One of the best actual romance-romances in the game.

I think it's kind of sad the best romances in the series, though, are all in the original game. No one really holds a candle to Leliana, Morrigan, and Alistair. I felt greatly disappointed in the ones in Dragon Age 2 and while I liked Cassandra a great deal, I felt she wasn't the kind of person who really made a great epic romance prospect because there was a lot of business and distance between the Inquisitor and herself. Plus, it's hard to romance her knowing she'd dump you in a heartbeat to become Pontiff.
Fuzzy Necromancer
Overlord
Posts: 6321
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:57 am

Re: Dragon Age and Sexuality

Post by Fuzzy Necromancer »

*sigh*

...yeah. Allistair is so...husbando-material, but also i'd-suck-off-this-guy-and-feel-grateful-for-the-opportunity. *sigh* I WANT MY MALE PC TO AT LEAST HIT ON HIM! T_T
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
User avatar
Steve
Doctor's Assistant
Posts: 554
Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:03 pm

Re: Dragon Age and Sexuality

Post by Steve »

SuccubusYuri wrote:
Also, as a lesbian, I feel absolutely cheated gay men got Dorian and we got...fucking...S-....Se-....Spang-....Sera. That is just weak. I mean sure we also get Josephine but that romance path is just dating Orlais with a face attached, damn frenchies...xD
Yeah, Sera doesn't really hold a candle to Dorian. Honestly, I think even when I do finally start my next DAI playthrough, I'm still going to do "In Hushed Whispers" because Cole is bleh and Dorian is great.

....that said, Josephine is awesome and I'll not hear a word said against her. And the bit about dueling the man her parents betroth her too is hilarious. It's really hilarious playing a female Human mage (how can I resist Traynor from ME3?) who has fought entire armies of crazed Templars and evil mages, mesmerized Grey Wardens, terrible THINGS from the Fade, a mage who has faced the first and most powerful of the Darkspawn himself, an ancient magister of Tevinter at its very height, and his taint-corrupted high dragon and walked away.... but who fumbles her way through a duel with an Antivan nobleman because Josephine is worth the humiliation of getting her butt kicked.

....granted, it only really works as a mage or, arguably, a bow-and-arrow rogue, maybe even a dagger rogue. Hard to believe a warrior of either gender could have the same problems.
"No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism." - Sir Winston L. S. Churchill, Princips Britannia

Administrator of SFD, Former Spacebattles Super-Mod, Veteran Chatnik. And multiverse crossover-loving writer, of course!
Post Reply