Star Trek: Galaxy

[PerrySimm]

These guys have their heart in the right place, and the better part of a million viewers is a heck of a soapbox. That big deal for Space Cop 2 with a major motion picture studio has got to be right around the corner!!

As for their specific Star Trek concept pitch, to be fair and judge it as a first draft, writer's room, hot take level... It's got some interesting ideas, but it needs to have the fanfic level buffed out.

Geordi and Leah show... Well, this is at best a bit of a kitbash. The Leah/Geordi relationship itself carries a certain burden of metacommentary on fanfiction. And, given that among the detested parts of TNG was Wesley, how exactly are kids on a busted starship not going to be annoying?

Galaxy-class (or specifically Galaxy) as essential... This depends on how essential it is to do the same thing again versus doing something new. Clearly they're reaching for the same-old-same-old by bringing back Picard, but this would be a clear double down.

Beverly Crusher is dead... It's not great news for Gates McFadden, but it would add a layer to Picard's character. The idea that Picard would ever marry, though, still seems a little out there.

Geordi isn't the chief engineer... He's just kinda there as a professor or something? And some kid like "Sam Barclay" is actually sticking the chewing gum inside the matter-antimatter chamber? It's just going to be a perpetual rerun of "Relics".

Ancient civilization rigged the ship with a "time" bomb... It's an interesting idea, though in general the concept had aped the "Lost in Space"/"Star Trek:Voyager"/"Stargate: Universe" setting, and now suddenly it's into "Doctor Who" territory. TNG's time manipulation episodes are generally thought of as weak, so making a whole series about that is troublesome.

Picard forced to take command due to a disaster... Eh. It's the Chakotay arc writ a bit larger. The fact that Geordi specifically asked Picard along kind of weakens the notion that it was just a chance occurrence. But it's probably fine compared with the alternative of Picard having being one of those Kirk-like busybody admirals constantly inviting themselves along on missions. Or any idea that Picard would be brought back but sidelined from the captain's chair.

He liked archaeology. Give him a fedora and one of those Ferengi energy whips and the show just writes itself.

There's probably a fair bit of graverobbing and canonical Nazi-fighting in Dixon Hill and the Man from South America...

[Worffan101]

That sounds like a great idea! Pity the actual show will likely be made by congenital hack Alex Kurtzman.

[Yukaphile]

I would bet anyone here 20 dollars that they'll ignore the continuity DS9 set up. And hell, even the continuity of Voyager. As badly as Voyager butchered its potential, I prefer it over what we got now. TNG was the most mainstream of the three shows, so naturally they're going to focus only on what came in TNG. DS9 was called "too dark" and a "betrayal" of Trek, so for them not to include it... would be absolutely consistent with the crop of incompetent writers we got at the helm. Also, the TNG movies gave us action-hero Picard. It's not as unlikely as you think.

[Deledrius]

Also, the TNG movies gave us action-hero Picard. It's not as unlikely as you think.

That's the part which worries me most. Stewart was the blame for some of that, so his creative control isn't as reassuring as it might be.

[Yukaphile]

Very true. I don't get why he wants to be an action hero so badly. He was better in the Shakespearean style civil rights discussion TNG thrived on.

[Karha of Honor]

I would bet anyone here 20 dollars that they'll ignore the continuity DS9 set up. And hell, even the continuity of Voyager. As badly as Voyager butchered its potential, I prefer it over what we got now. TNG was the most mainstream of the three shows, so naturally they're going to focus only on what came in TNG. DS9 was called "too dark" and a "betrayal" of Trek, so for them not to include it... would be absolutely consistent with the crop of incompetent writers we got at the helm. Also, the TNG movies gave us action-hero Picard. It's not as unlikely as you think.

You don't have to do that. Space is big. in WW2 the Eastern Front was way different from North Africa.

Just put him into a part of space where the mission is exploration and he won't be forced to make dark choices like the crew on DS 9 and Discovery did.

[Yukaphile]

I get what you're saying. But given how they've stretch the continuity thin in STD, I don't hold out hope for STG. Especially since Patrick Stewart is being given more creative control as others have said, purely out of nostalgia and that TNG is more beloved, but then... he is more likely to wanna remember TNG rather than DS9, since he never appeared there beyond the pilot. So that's worrisome.

[PerrySimm]

Would not bet that the new show's going be about Bajor and Cardassia. It might be nice to call back to DS9-related themes every now and again, but preferably for plot reasons, rather than some throwaway lines or background art here and there.

[Yukaphile]

I don't think Patrick Stewart will care about that because, as SF Debris pointed out in Galaxy Quest, to an actor it's about "me giving my performance!" And what he primarily cared about was the TNG series and the TNG movies. Plus he just really wants to be an action hero sexing up the ladies, and... I dunno. I just... I don't have high hopes for this franchise anymore. Insurrection was an attempt to undermine the series, and it succeeded. Nemesis was the enemy, and it killed it for a time. And now poor Star Trek has an STD. Unless we acknowledge it has a problem and get it some help, it's going to die. And worse yet, it will take the reputation and integrity and dignity of Patrick Stewart along with it since he's going to have creative control in some areas. It's just... why is Hollywood so obsessed with destroying all these old franchises? Star Wars, Star Trek, ReBoot, and many more...

[Karha of Honor]

Would not bet that the new show's going be about Bajor and Cardassia. It might be nice to call back to DS9-related themes every now and again, but preferably for plot reasons, rather than some throwaway lines or background art here and there.

Delta Quadrant is still cool even if Voyager was one of the worst Trek shows.