Khan series in the works?

[Karha of Honor]

I want to "clean house" before something like that happened. Cancel STD, and bury it to such an extent all episodes will NEVER be found again. Then start a new series, one that hopefully learns from its mistakes, where the writers do their fucking jobs and maybe browse through Memory Alpha to get a grasp of the lore and setting, and only once it's become a success, start exploring new spin-offs.

Saru is awesome. Don't bury it.

[Deledrius]

^ We are the generation of nostalgia, and they keep ruthlessly trying to plunder that bin of nostalgia rather than tell their own stories.

It's hard. If I want more Star Trek, I don't want you to reheat some thirty-year-old leftovers and try to convince me it's still edible. On the other hand, I don't want some completely new unrelated thing that has absolutely no resemblance that you decide to slap the name onto and then quickly go grab some random items from a Trekkie's collection and dump them on top and tell me that automatically makes it Star Trek, either.

The older shows were far from perfect. There's a lot that needed improvement and the subtext didn't always support the text. Still, I want to think we can get new stories and try new things without completely giving up on the parts that worked. I'm nostalgic for the old stuff, but I don't need to see it repeated... if I want to watch Khan, I can watch WoK, or Nemesis, or 2009, or Into Darkness...

Anyway, Khan's just not that interesting anymore.

[Karha of Honor]

^ We are the generation of nostalgia, and they keep ruthlessly trying to plunder that bin of nostalgia rather than tell their own stories.

It's hard. If I want more Star Trek, I don't want you to reheat some thirty-year-old leftovers and try to convince me it's still edible. On the other hand, I don't want some completely new unrelated thing that has absolutely no resemblance that you decide to slap the name onto and then quickly go grab some random items from a Trekkie's collection and dump them on top and tell me that automatically makes it Star Trek, either.

The older shows were far from perfect. There's a lot that needed improvement and the subtext didn't always support the text. Still, I want to think we can get new stories and try new things without completely giving up on the parts that worked. I'm nostalgic for the old stuff, but I don't need to see it repeated... if I want to watch Khan, I can watch WoK, or Nemesis, or 2009, or Into Darkness...

Anyway, Khan's just not that interesting anymore.

What big concepts and ideas do you have in the it worked category?

[Deledrius]

What big concepts and ideas do you have in the it worked category?

That's a good question, and a bit harder to answer in a way that isn't just "these are the parts I like" without going into a long deep dive I don't have the time to write at the moment. As a substitute, I generally agree with Chuck's expressed opinions on what has worked and what hasn't for the show and movies. Not always in matters of degree but almost always in the same direction.

The difficult part is that if you asked a hundred people what works about Star Trek, you'd get nearly as many answers. The parts that overlap are most likely going to be the trivial (and non-essential) aspects. If I'm being generous, I think that could explain things like the JJ Abrams films.

[Karha of Honor]

What big concepts and ideas do you have in the it worked category?

That's a good question, and a bit harder to answer in a way that isn't just "these are the parts I like" without going into a long deep dive I don't have the time to write at the moment. As a substitute, I generally agree with Chuck's expressed opinions on what has worked and what hasn't for the show and movies. Not always in matters of degree but almost always in the same direction.

The difficult part is that if you asked a hundred people what works about Star Trek, you'd get nearly as many answers. The parts that overlap are most likely going to be the trivial (and non-essential) aspects. If I'm being generous, I think that could explain things like the JJ Abrams films.

I just like the trivial stuff and want my Starfleet idealistic for the most part and the civilian government to be vaguely that.

[Deledrius]

I just like the trivial stuff and want my Starfleet idealistic for the most part and the civilian government to be vaguely that.

Those are strong components for me as well.