ChiggyvonRichthofen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:44 am
To be honest, I was slightly disappointed after all the hype. Not that it was bad- it was very good. I just thought it fell short of the standard set by Infinity War for a few reasons, which I won't get into in a spoiler-free thread. I'll just say that I thought all the fan service they felt they needed to do ultimately weighed down the film in a way that it wouldn't have been if it weren't the culmination of nearly two dozen movies.
This isn't really a spoiler free thread, I was just not giving spoilers in the initial post because it hadn't come out for most of the rest of the world yet. Being polite doesn't hurt after all.
That being said, I think the fanservice worked because it was all things that were earned by now. If they had done most of this stuff in something like Age of Ultron, that might of been hard to swallow, but here it works because it was such a long and hard journey to get there, the story has a right to indulge itself.
I think it's a good idea not to spoil everything immediately.
This movie clearly paid off very well for the vast majority of people, so I'm probably wrong as far as how to please fans. And I wouldn't say I didn't enjoy the fan service or that it wasn't earned. Even so, in my opinion the film didn't cohere perfectly because of the number of things they needed to accomplish. Certain things happened not because it made perfect sense for this story, but because they needed to happen to pay off fan expectations and wrap of every storyline and have the right characters shining in the right moments. The movement or the rhythm of the film seemed artificial and forced in spots to reach certain fan-friendly conclusions, rather than flowing naturally from the premises set out in Infinity War and the beginning of the movie.
Most fans I've seen are just pumped at all the cool moments and that they pulled it off overall, that's fair enough. There's no reasons why fans have to go into a nitpicking/critical mode on opening weekend. Once the hype dies down a bit, some of the issues of the film can be examined more closely. As a fan I enjoyed it, but from a more detached perspective, I think it has flaws that Infinity War didn't necessarily have.
It will be interesting to see how successful the MCU will be after this. An event like this won't be coming again for a long, long time, and the advantage of novelty will be gone. Still, some of the next phase characters have already done very well in their first solo movies, so we'll see whether comic book fatigue is actually going to be a thing or not.
For starters, as I've been saying, I personally think this movie worked out really well in lieu of everything you're saying in the first paragraph. And I don't take my word as gospel, myself, this and Shazam just happens to be a time that I like it and am impressed and people agree.
What you are describing though is to be honest the opposite of how I approached the movie. And this movie is no exception to the rule that the respective opposite of my anticipation seems to account for how I feel about it after seeing it. I wasn't expecting much going into this, and was pleasantly surprised. I'm 95% certain that this formula is reliable enough for me to consider that if I expected it to be good like you, then I'd feel no different than you for every regard.
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:26 pm
What you are describing though is to be honest the opposite of how I approached the movie. And this movie is no exception to the rule that the respective opposite of my anticipation seems to account for how I feel about it after seeing it. I wasn't expecting much going into this, and was pleasantly surprised. I'm 95% certain that this formula is reliable enough for me to consider that if I expected it to be good like you, then I'd feel no different than you for every regard.
It could be that I got my expectations too high, although I hate to say that because, again, I don't think it was bad at all. Usually I don't look for anything more than simple entertainment in superhero films, including the MCU, but after how well Infinity War was executed I came in expecting the same or better. We still got one of the better/best MCU films, but in the end I saw it as maybe a more fitting resolution for this franchise than a "The Dark Knight" level film would have been.
I enjoyed the movie, I was entertained but I did have to shut off my critical thinking of the plot to do so (and was prepared to do). Once you have time travel, a lot of logic falls away and you are left with a story they want to tell you ''because''; because if they used the time travel effectively they wouldn't have these problems. As an example to even to just use it in an in-universe way previously demonstrated in Dr. Strange the Time Stone alone can wind time backwards to undo damage to the van/portal device, let aside the one in the Avengers compound.
It was fun, the audience really did cheer at some points, and I can see why. It is the culmination of a large series of movies and is in itself an even in cinema. Well done Marvel for doing this as well as they have.
It was fun, the audience really did cheer at some points, and I can see why. It is the culmination of a large series of movies and is in itself an even in cinema. Well done Marvel for doing this as well as they have.
The audience in my theatre was giving standing ovations several times throughout, it was quite impressive to see. One of the largest crowd pleasing moments of the film was when Carol no selled Thanos' headbut.
Honestly I can't really come up with an explanation for how all the female heroes naturally wound up together following Captain Marvel, but I thought it was substantially evocative.
It was fun, the audience really did cheer at some points, and I can see why. It is the culmination of a large series of movies and is in itself an even in cinema. Well done Marvel for doing this as well as they have.
The audience in my theatre was giving standing ovations several times throughout, it was quite impressive to see. One of the largest crowd pleasing moments of the film was when Carol no selled Thanos' headbut.
Well she is super powered so that is to be expected from her. That said maybe because audience behavior isn't usual in here it does seem strange to me that people would give standing ovations instead of focusing on watching movie but I guess that's just cultural difference.
"In the embrace of the great Nurgle, I am no longer afraid, for with His pestilential favour I have become that which I once most feared: Death.."
- Kulvain Hestarius of the Death Guard
It was fun, the audience really did cheer at some points, and I can see why. It is the culmination of a large series of movies and is in itself an even in cinema. Well done Marvel for doing this as well as they have.
The audience in my theatre was giving standing ovations several times throughout, it was quite impressive to see. One of the largest crowd pleasing moments of the film was when Carol no selled Thanos' headbut.
Well she is super powered so that is to be expected from her. That said maybe because audience behavior isn't usual in here it does seem strange to me that people would give standing ovations instead of focusing on watching movie but I guess that's just cultural difference.
Definitely an American thing. You'd be mocked relentlessly if you clapped in a British cinema.
I have spent the last five days marathoning all of the MCU, and... wow. Just wow. Why can't the new Star Wars movies have writing, characters, and action this good? Holy shit!
The end credits kinda reminded me of Star Trek 6 with the cast's signatures.
Avengers Endgame was worth the wait. See it as soon as you can and once it's out on Blu-Ray GET IT. After watching 22 movies, this has been one hell of a journey. I don't know where it can possibly go next, or how the hell it can top this but... we'll see, for another journey.
It was fun, the audience really did cheer at some points, and I can see why. It is the culmination of a large series of movies and is in itself an even in cinema. Well done Marvel for doing this as well as they have.
The audience in my theatre was giving standing ovations several times throughout, it was quite impressive to see. One of the largest crowd pleasing moments of the film was when Carol no selled Thanos' headbut.
Well she is super powered so that is to be expected from her. That said maybe because audience behavior isn't usual in here it does seem strange to me that people would give standing ovations instead of focusing on watching movie but I guess that's just cultural difference.
Definitely an American thing. You'd be mocked relentlessly if you clapped in a British cinema.
Could be an american thing, I dunno. I'm australian so that's where it happened.
