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It's not the size that matters, it's what you're doing with it...
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How mature. :roll:
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Gene Roddenberry was a navy man, he knew exactly how much room was needed on board a ship to accommodate 430 men along with their supplies and equipment. That's why the 1701 is reasonably sized, and the reboot 1701 is stupid. Supposedly they made it large because audiences expected it to be large or some such rubbish.

Look at how huge Nero's mining ship is too, its almost larger than the Voth city ship and is more than twice the size of a Borg cube ffs.

Edit: Nero's ship is more than twice the size of Atlantis! A flying city the size of Manhattan! Wow. The Romulans were serious about collecting that ore weren't they? :roll:
God I am so glad the reboot got cancelled. No concern for world building at all.
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actually, he was a captain in the USAAC, which was the precursor to the US Air Force. he based the rank structure of the enterprise crew on that of an American military flight-crew, which is why despite having a crew of over 400, everyone on the ship was an officer.
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When putting that Roddenberry's military background into consideration it really seems strange how much he went his way to make Starfleet not seem like military fleet when it's that for all intents and purposes. It's almost like he wanted to distance himself from time he spend in USAAC.
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J!! wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:46 pm actually, he was a captain in the USAAC, which was the precursor to the US Air Force. he based the rank structure of the enterprise crew on that of an American military flight-crew, which is why despite having a crew of over 400, everyone on the ship was an officer.
Oh, fair enough. I heard he was navy. Still though, it makes sense why he picked the dimensions that he did.
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Mecha82 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:13 pm When putting that Roddenberry's military background into consideration it really seems strange how much he went his way to make Starfleet not seem like military fleet when it's that for all intents and purposes. It's almost like he wanted to distance himself from time he spend in USAAC.
i think it's pretty clear that roddenberry had a fairly significant shift in his political views in the decades between the end of the original series and the beginning of the next generation.

keep in mind that the former was made during the height of the cold war, and just before public sentiment really began to shift significantly against the vietnam war. in that show, they made absolutely no bones about the fact that starfleet was a military, which kirk referring to himself as a soldier several times. the federation was little more than a stand-in for the USA, with the klingons as a stand-in for the USSR.

tng on the other hand was made over a decade after the end of the vietnam war, when the american people's attitude toward the military & toward militarism in general was much more negative. that's when roddenbery decided to claim that star fleet we not, nor had ever been a military organization, despite that seeming to directly conflict with the original show.
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You mean on screen.

Books must have way bigger.
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