So that's what you do and you don't see us making a big deal about it now do you.
Kathleen Kennedy says there's no source material for Star Wars
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Y'know, in almost any other fandom, no one gets this passionate about Expanded Universe material. The X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, even Star Trek: except in some rare occasions where it's written by the original creator of the property and declared to be in continuity, their tie-in novels, comic books, and video games are almost always treated as non-canon, basically just fan fiction except commissioned by the official rights holders. Why does Star Wars Expanded Universe stuff get treated so differently?
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I think it has to do with George Lucas giving consent to it structuring its sandbox. Gives it a quasi canon appeal.Fianna wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:46 pm Y'know, in almost any other fandom, no one gets this passionate about Expanded Universe material. The X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, even Star Trek: except in some rare occasions where it's written by the original creator of the property and declared to be in continuity, their tie-in novels, comic books, and video games are almost always treated as non-canon, basically just fan fiction except commissioned by the official rights holders. Why does Star Wars Expanded Universe stuff get treated so differently?
One cross example to look at is Harry Potter. J K Rowling tweeting backstory information on the fly about characters puts Twitter fans at odds. It wouldn't be if she appropriated a user-fed content system.
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Cause George Lucas gave some nods to them and there was so little base material for Star Wars fans hungry for more.
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Besides, your very language implies it doesn't matter and never mattered.
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And trust me, compared to the "bash Disney/save Legends" portion of the fandom, I'm pretty moderate. I don't think those in charge now actively hate Star Wars and wanna kill George's creation, as I've seen leveled. Nor do I bash George and feel pleased he's been "betrayed" now to the extent we were in 1999. It's toxic. No, if anything, I feel bad for the hate on George, it's still going on, and don't think those in charge have an agenda past the way a salesman lies, and that they don't hate Star Wars. They're just idiots. I think that's fair.
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My two cents: because for a couple of decades we literally had no Star Wars. It was three films. Nothing more.Fianna wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:46 pm Y'know, in almost any other fandom, no one gets this passionate about Expanded Universe material. The X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, even Star Trek: except in some rare occasions where it's written by the original creator of the property and declared to be in continuity, their tie-in novels, comic books, and video games are almost always treated as non-canon, basically just fan fiction except commissioned by the official rights holders. Why does Star Wars Expanded Universe stuff get treated so differently?
Certain fans enjoyed pretending that it continued the story. And whilst Lucas occasionally nodded to it, ultimately comes off as a man who barley tolerated it rather than agreed with it. Having read some of it frankly getting rid of Legends was one of the best things Disney did. No one who has only seen the films (which is most casuals) is going to understand decades of convoluted stories that often were not even internally consistent. It was always the better move to make something original.
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At least Rowling is the creator of Harry Potter. The EU is made by hundreds of different people.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:04 pmI think it has to do with George Lucas giving consent to it structuring its sandbox. Gives it a quasi canon appeal.Fianna wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:46 pm Y'know, in almost any other fandom, no one gets this passionate about Expanded Universe material. The X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, even Star Trek: except in some rare occasions where it's written by the original creator of the property and declared to be in continuity, their tie-in novels, comic books, and video games are almost always treated as non-canon, basically just fan fiction except commissioned by the official rights holders. Why does Star Wars Expanded Universe stuff get treated so differently?
One cross example to look at is Harry Potter. J K Rowling tweeting backstory information on the fly about characters puts Twitter fans at odds. It wouldn't be if she appropriated a user-fed content system.
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Well the point in following was more like, if Lucas himself started writing stories as Disney is doing regarding the EU, then people would get upset with that too.clearspira wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:48 pmAt least Rowling is the creator of Harry Potter. The EU is made by hundreds of different people.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:04 pmI think it has to do with George Lucas giving consent to it structuring its sandbox. Gives it a quasi canon appeal.Fianna wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:46 pm Y'know, in almost any other fandom, no one gets this passionate about Expanded Universe material. The X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, even Star Trek: except in some rare occasions where it's written by the original creator of the property and declared to be in continuity, their tie-in novels, comic books, and video games are almost always treated as non-canon, basically just fan fiction except commissioned by the official rights holders. Why does Star Wars Expanded Universe stuff get treated so differently?
One cross example to look at is Harry Potter. J K Rowling tweeting backstory information on the fly about characters puts Twitter fans at odds. It wouldn't be if she appropriated a user-fed content system.
The fact that Lucas gave his blessing on the EU gave it more tangibility as a quasi canon.
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Fair enough, I see what you mean now.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:57 pmWell the point in following was more like, if Lucas himself started writing stories as Disney is doing regarding the EU, then people would get upset with that too.clearspira wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:48 pmAt least Rowling is the creator of Harry Potter. The EU is made by hundreds of different people.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:04 pmI think it has to do with George Lucas giving consent to it structuring its sandbox. Gives it a quasi canon appeal.Fianna wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:46 pm Y'know, in almost any other fandom, no one gets this passionate about Expanded Universe material. The X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, even Star Trek: except in some rare occasions where it's written by the original creator of the property and declared to be in continuity, their tie-in novels, comic books, and video games are almost always treated as non-canon, basically just fan fiction except commissioned by the official rights holders. Why does Star Wars Expanded Universe stuff get treated so differently?
One cross example to look at is Harry Potter. J K Rowling tweeting backstory information on the fly about characters puts Twitter fans at odds. It wouldn't be if she appropriated a user-fed content system.
The fact that Lucas gave his blessing on the EU gave it more tangibility as a quasi canon.