The Romulan Plot of TNG

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They initiate a lot of the conflicts either going after the enterprise or they just run into each other, like the bit with tin man. plus the romulans were the first villians i ever saw win and not get it reversed the next episode, remember the spy in data's day

that was something i never saw coming as a kid the bad guys winning
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chaos42 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 1:06 pm They initiate a lot of the conflicts either going after the enterprise or they just run into each other, like the bit with tin man. plus the romulans were the first villians i ever saw win and not get it reversed the next episode, remember the spy in data's day

that was something i never saw coming as a kid the bad guys winning
Just about.

To tell you the truth, I was getting a bit restless watching TOS episodes until their first encounter. I already knew the backdrop of the encounter but that was the first bit of strategic conflict that the show presented I think.

The adversarial status of the klingons in TOS was echoed in TNG with the Borg representing a seeded adversity in Picard while the Romulans represented a more budding dynamic inline with the productive efforts to establish diplomacy. Of course that mainly played as a backdrop and had a ceiling of development as was the main bottlenecking of the show. Of course you can just leave diplomacy with the Borg to Janeway and you won't have to worry about her giving them the keys to earth.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 2:49 am It's all hijinx though.
That's the main issue I have with how TNG handled them. It seemed like they didn't really know what to do with the Roms beyond their clandestine plotting before they threw out Unification, which went nowhere.
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Beastro wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 8:33 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 2:49 am It's all hijinx though.
That's the main issue I have with how TNG handled them. It seemed like they didn't really know what to do with the Roms beyond their clandestine plotting before they threw out Unification, which went nowhere.
As I was saying further, that seems to be part of the design of TNG. I have a feeling they wrote the show to be appropriate for syndication like the original show.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 3:31 pm
chaos42 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 1:06 pm They initiate a lot of the conflicts either going after the enterprise or they just run into each other, like the bit with tin man. plus the romulans were the first villians i ever saw win and not get it reversed the next episode, remember the spy in data's day

that was something i never saw coming as a kid the bad guys winning
Just about.

To tell you the truth, I was getting a bit restless watching TOS episodes until their first encounter. I already knew the backdrop of the encounter but that was the first bit of strategic conflict that the show presented I think.

The adversarial status of the klingons in TOS was echoed in TNG with the Borg representing a seeded adversity in Picard while the Romulans represented a more budding dynamic inline with the productive efforts to establish diplomacy. Of course that mainly played as a backdrop and had a ceiling of development as was the main bottlenecking of the show. Of course you can just leave diplomacy with the Borg to Janeway and you won't have to worry about her giving them the keys to earth.
it also feels like a lot of the stories after season 5 were not as good and they could have used more romulan plots but all they did was problem of the week and couple dealing with. though they were setting up for ds9 so there is a reason


also yes it was going to be syndicated, they were still doing that with tos back then. overall i think the biggest issue was that they didn't plan to write many long term stories apart from worfs klingon honor issues and the borg and after that it just became episodic, but then again we are looking at it with more modern tastes as people want more serial story telling these days
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Well looking at DS9's wiki and that went straight to syndication. I just meant rerun though I'm not sure of how to manage the distinctions of general network allocation and random out of sequence reruns when dealing with the term syndication.
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most syndication now is done in series order back then the episodic nature made i easy to just run any old thing on tv. which is what happened
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