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Re: What Makes the MCU Work?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:42 pm
by Makeshift Python
CrypticMirror wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:40 pm Marvel works because they remembered to have fun and put colour in their movies.
You have to save Martha.

Re: What Makes the MCU Work?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:59 pm
by CrypticMirror
Makeshift Python wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:42 pm
CrypticMirror wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:40 pm Marvel works because they remembered to have fun and put colour in their movies.
You have to save Martha.
Why did you say that name!

Re: What Makes the MCU Work?

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:43 am
by Thebestoftherest
Makeshift Python wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:42 pm
CrypticMirror wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:40 pm Marvel works because they remembered to have fun and put colour in their movies.
You have to save Martha.
Save Mothra she actually cares for human lives.

Re: What Makes the MCU Work?

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:37 am
by GreyICE
CrypticMirror wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:40 pm Marvel works because they remembered to have fun and put colour in their movies.
The Green Lantern movie was fun and colorful.

I submit it's a tad more complex.

Re: What Makes the MCU Work?

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:50 am
by Thebestoftherest
GreyICE wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:37 am
CrypticMirror wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:40 pm Marvel works because they remembered to have fun and put colour in their movies.
The Green Lantern movie was fun and colorful.

I submit it's a tad more complex.
Yeah but like Thor the dark world they took two good story ideas and put them together and didn't get recess. More like ice cream and steak.

Re: What Makes the MCU Work?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:32 am
by Makeshift Python
I actually look forward to the new cut of JUSTICE LEAGUE because I'm just a sucker for alternate cuts of existing films. That said, I have no expectations of it being half-way decent, and suspect the theatrical version was the best patch job the studio could possibly do, which ain't much.

Re: What Makes the MCU Work?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:42 am
by Thebestoftherest
That is actually fair. I have no interest in it, and wait for it to come out and be forgotten.

Re: What Makes the MCU Work?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:26 pm
by Nealithi
Let me start my answer to this with a question. Why is the DCAU so good, even compared to their movies?
The answer is that instead of episodes all being stand alone affairs they kept most episodes to be a story or a chapter in an on going arc. So you did not have to cram in who everyone was and explore every character all at once. The individual episodes were written with thought and some humor as well as seriousness. And they borrowed upon their own source elements. One example being John Stewart having detonated a planet and standing trial. They took that idea and shaped an episode about it. And showed how the team will work together and highlighting character. Green Lantern felt he had to stand trial. It was the responsible thing to do. Flash was over his head but stands up for his friends. Even in the face of death.

Then you look at the MCU. Ironman, introduce the character and get an idea who he is. Same with Thor and Captain America. Smaller side characters can be introduced but do not take the lime light from the main character. IE Black Widow and Hawkeye. And there will be some element to tie each part together. Nothing fancy but a minor little knot. So when Avengers hits it is not about introducing Ironman or Captain America to the audiences. It is about how they interact while handling the problem of the movie. And this plays to the strengths of both movies and TV by being able to give you tons of information and character building so when the finger snaps happen you felt it.

DC, okay we had a Superman movie, let's tie that to Batman and you know what shove Wonder Woman and Aquaman in there as well. They went for an Avengers movie out the gate without the build up and most of it felt like. 'Sell toys first, tell a story third or fourth'. And as Chuck has pointed out in his reviews of Transformers (with asides to GiJoe) and MLP. Marketing is half baked about sell the shiny gun that turns into a robot, or this pink pony. But story say this is Megatron and that is Princess Cadence. You go for the character not the glitter. Or an older franchise, who is the brown guy again? He looks boring, and the one in the white tunic is lame. But Obi Wan Kenobi and Luke Skywalker fly off the shelves.

TL;DR MCU works because it used the strengths of episodic and movie formula to make good stories. DC tried to sell flash.

Re: What Makes the MCU Work?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:09 pm
by Thebestoftherest
Yeah, and it doesn't help that the DC films are kinda ugly.

Re: What Makes the MCU Work?

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:09 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Really I don't mind that Superman killed Zod in MoS.