What makes A Star Wars Film?

[Beelzquill]

I have three titles I wish to ask if they fit the premise.
Rogue One, a Star Wars story
Solo, a Star Wars story
Star Wars Christmas Special

As all three here have Star Wars in the title.

As all three have star wars in the title, all three pass my abstract.
Though, I should mention, just because I think something is Star Wars, doesn't mean I think it's good.

[CrypticMirror]

So here is an idea. What, in your opinion, makes a Star Wars film, and how does each of the 9 films in the series pass or fail that abstract condition?

A connection to the Skywalker family in some way.

[Captain Crimson]

So here is an idea. What, in your opinion, makes a Star Wars film, and how does each of the 9 films in the series pass or fail that abstract condition?

A connection to the Skywalker family in some way.

Imagine a Jedi Quest movie or a Legacy movie.

[phantom000]

Simple but effective characters in a complex but understandable plot with an interesting and creative setting.

Oh wait a second, i'm thinking of Avatar: The Last Airbender. I kinda think of ATLA as 'Star Wars done right.' It does a lot of the same things, but does them a lot better. Zuko's journey is handled much better than Anakin's and Aang's internal conflict makes much more sense then Luke's. And bending is just more interesting then the force, which just does 'whatever the plot needs it to do.'

[Thebestoftherest]

You make a good point, both do take heavy influence from eastern believes.

[phantom000]

You make a good point, both do take heavy influence from eastern believes.

Hello Future Me, on YouTube has a couple videos where he discusses the differences between a 'hard magic system' and a 'soft magic system.' Part of the problem with the force in SW is that it keeps swinging back and forth on which one its supposed to be. Either could work but you need to pick one and stick with it and it seems to be up to the writer and how they want to use the force in their story.

Bending is more interesting because it was intended, from the beginning, to be a hard magic system and developed as such.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I never really got hooked on whether force was tangible or not.

[phantom000]

I never really got hooked on whether force was tangible or not.

I'm just saying the writers can never seem to agree on how it's supposed to work so it seems like they tend to pull stuff out of their butt just because the plots needs something to happen. That is part of what put me off the Sequel Trilogy, when Rey was able to do the Jedi mind trick without any training or support, despite Luke not be able to do it until after weeks of training with one of the greatest jedi masters in the galaxy. My willing suspension of disbelief just snapped at that point.

Again, this is something they do better in ATLA because they tend to explain how it is possible so its easier for me to accept.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I never really got hooked on whether force was tangible or not.

I'm just saying the writers can never seem to agree on how it's supposed to work so it seems like they tend to pull stuff out of their butt just because the plots needs something to happen. That is part of what put me off the Sequel Trilogy, when Rey was able to do the Jedi mind trick without any training or support, despite Luke not be able to do it until after weeks of training with one of the greatest jedi masters in the galaxy. My willing suspension of disbelief just snapped at that point.

Again, this is something they do better in ATLA because they tend to explain how it is possible so its easier for me to accept.

This seems like an easy one for consideration. I have discussed as much on this forum.

Force abilities aren't representative of all jedi equally, and I'd think most any people concerned would know this. Luke was able to hit a one-in-a-million shot with minimal jedi training, and that's not incredibly different. It was established that Rey was familiar with haggling for survival on Jaku. The fact that she was left alone as a child bare to the wilderness isn't that dissimilar to Anakin Skywalker growing up as a slave on Tatooine. Surely Abrams and Kennedy cracked that egg with a hammer by using Palpatine as the budding reason, but really I find the prior connections compelling.

Her growing up on Jaku also gives plenty of balance to Kylo's affinity with Anakin in that she bears more resemblance to Anakin's struggle than Kylo does while he is just sworn to it by blood. Really though I'm not too sure of any substance that gives nuance to Kylo's resemblance to Anakin, just for cross comparison to Rey.

[phantom000]

I never really got hooked on whether force was tangible or not.

I'm just saying the writers can never seem to agree on how it's supposed to work so it seems like they tend to pull stuff out of their butt just because the plots needs something to happen. That is part of what put me off the Sequel Trilogy, when Rey was able to do the Jedi mind trick without any training or support, despite Luke not be able to do it until after weeks of training with one of the greatest jedi masters in the galaxy. My willing suspension of disbelief just snapped at that point.

Again, this is something they do better in ATLA because they tend to explain how it is possible so its easier for me to accept.

This seems like an easy one for consideration. I have discussed as much on this forum.

Force abilities aren't representative of all jedi equally, and I'd think most any people concerned would know this. Luke was able to hit a one-in-a-million shot with minimal jedi training, and that's not incredibly different. It was established that Rey was familiar with haggling for survival on Jaku. The fact that she was left alone as a child bare to the wilderness isn't that dissimilar to Anakin Skywalker growing up as a slave on Tatooine. Surely Abrams and Kennedy cracked that egg with a hammer by using Palpatine as the budding reason, but really I find the prior connections compelling.

No she was sold to someone, wasn't she? I only saw TFA but it looked like she wasn't just abandoned in the wilderness she had someone to look after her, at least at first.

But what gets me is that she is told she has the force and just like that she can use it. She didn't even see someone do the jedi mind trick, she just does it. It seems to come out of nowhere like the writer needed to shoe-horn in a scene of her using the force and couldn't think of another way. Frankly if you want to talk about her time on Jakku it would have made more sense that she picked the lock or something.