Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:56 am
Have they actually cancel a new trek show yet?
Nope. Paramount Plus is uniformly carried by Star Trek at this point.
But clearly the Trek shows are massive failures and they're going to erase all of them from continuity ANY minute now. Oh and hire the guy from Axanar and apologize to the fandom for being woke.
clearspira wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:02 pm
My thoughts on NewTrek aside, am I the only one who finds prequels boring as feck?
Where's the tension? Pike cannot die. Spock cannot die. The 1701 cannot be destroyed. There are no stakes to anything that happens.
Star Wars was the same. Let's see: Anakin couldn't die. Obi Wan couldn't die. Yoda, Chewbacca, Palpatine, R2, C3-PO... all immortal.
Woo! Exciting! How are they going to get out of this one alive!
Yes, because we were all just biting our nails wondering if Kirk or Spock were going to die in each episode of the original series.
Tasha Yar. Main castmembers can and do die.
And frankly that is an old way of thinking. Post Walking Dead and Game of Thrones it's not controversial to kill the cast anymore.
clearspira wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:02 pm
My thoughts on NewTrek aside, am I the only one who finds prequels boring as feck?
Where's the tension? Pike cannot die. Spock cannot die. The 1701 cannot be destroyed. There are no stakes to anything that happens.
Star Wars was the same. Let's see: Anakin couldn't die. Obi Wan couldn't die. Yoda, Chewbacca, Palpatine, R2, C3-PO... all immortal.
Woo! Exciting! How are they going to get out of this one alive!
Yes, because we were all just biting our nails wondering if Kirk or Spock were going to die in each episode of the original series.
Tasha Yar. Main castmembers can and do die.
And frankly that is an old way of thinking. Post Walking Dead and Game of Thrones it's not controversial to kill the cast anymore.
I think after Jason Todd and Tasha Yarr people now die more as a part of a conscious narrative in the story and less like a professional wrestling demise handled by Trey Stone and Matt Parker.
CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:02 am
I mean, Tasha died because her actress wanted off.
Yep, just like Leonard Nimoy in Wrath of Khan. And in both cases, they ended up changing their minds afterward.
Which brings up another point; in sci-fi, death often doesn't really mean that much. If the writers want to bring back Tasha Yar a bunch of times, they'll find a way.
clearspira wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:02 pm
My thoughts on NewTrek aside, am I the only one who finds prequels boring as feck?
Where's the tension? Pike cannot die. Spock cannot die. The 1701 cannot be destroyed. There are no stakes to anything that happens.
Star Wars was the same. Let's see: Anakin couldn't die. Obi Wan couldn't die. Yoda, Chewbacca, Palpatine, R2, C3-PO... all immortal.
Woo! Exciting! How are they going to get out of this one alive!
How is this any different from previous Trek. We know E-D can't be destroyed and her crew aside from Picard during the BOBW. Voyager can't be destroyed or her crew.
At this point NuTrek is just like "Days of our Lives" and "The Young and the Restless": utterly pointless, yet somehow it's still being produced.
Of course the real reason is that Paramount+ doesn't have anything of value besides NuDreck, so cancelling the current Trek shows is synonymous with cancelling Paramount+ and with the way each studio wants their own streaming service, there's no way Paramount will just throw in the towel, sunk cost and all. It's kind of like the Concorde: It might crash and burn eventually, but until then, no one will ever admit that maybe the whole thing was a mistake in the first place.
If Netflix can renew trash like "Another Life" for a second season, then why won't Paramount be any better.
