Stargate SG-1: Spirits

[Nobody700]

I said, South America. The Goa'uld have to have come BEFORE conquistadors came, so this was native Americans living there at the time.

We have a miscommunication somewhere.

Counter argument, why pretend they're South American.

What exactly is the point you are trying to make?

The characters in one episode of the show were stated to be Incan in nature, Daniel went into a whole thing... yet every character was white. I was confused, why do that when it's clear the ENTIRE group is NOT from that culture. Did an Incan Goa'uld kidnap these guys somewhere else and plant them here?

[Madner Kami]

So your point is, that they shouldn't have been Incan in the first place?

Though besides the point: We already need to supress a lot of disbelief in regards to the timeline, because the Incans and many other cultures weren't a thing when the Stargate was burried, implying that either the Goa'Uld came back via spaceships many times and abducted people from all over the world, which would lend credence to them just picking anyone and supplanting their favourite culture onto their new slaves.

[Nobody700]

So your point is, that they shouldn't have been Incan in the first place?

Though besides the point: We already need to supress a lot of disbelief in regards to the timeline, because the Incans and many other cultures weren't a thing when the Stargate was burried, implying that either the Goa'Uld came back via spaceships many times and abducted people from all over the world, which would lend credence to them just picking anyone and supplanting their favourite culture onto their new slaves.

Yeah the concept of all these cultures having different gods gets weirder and weirder, down to Lord Yu... who was a real guy and yet he left because... he left.

[Madner Kami]

I have to disagree on Lord Yu. Yu the Great is, at best, a semi-historical figure. The guy allegedly lived somewhen in the late third millenium BCE. Written script didn't appear in China until about a thousand years after he allegedly lived and he doesn't appear in writing for argueably another 200 years after that, depending on when exactly he would have lived.
Either way, the guy lived somewhen during the years 2500 and 2000 BCE. The Giza Pyramids were built from around 2550 to 2490 BCE. This is one of the few Goa'Uld whose existence and presence on Earth would actually line up with the overall Stargate lore and our reality.

[clearspira]

So your point is, that they shouldn't have been Incan in the first place?

Though besides the point: We already need to supress a lot of disbelief in regards to the timeline, because the Incans and many other cultures weren't a thing when the Stargate was burried, implying that either the Goa'Uld came back via spaceships many times and abducted people from all over the world, which would lend credence to them just picking anyone and supplanting their favourite culture onto their new slaves.

The biggest issue with Stargate SG-1 is that it is based on a Roland Emmerich script based on a nonsense and widely discredited theory. It is actually pretty amazing that the show was as good as it was tbh.

I would say that the truly big problems SG-1 managed to invent all on its own such as the idea that the Ancients were the first evolution of humanity and came from another galaxy. Which handily ignores the Neanderthals. And the fact that we share most of our DNA with pigs.

[Nobody700]

So your point is, that they shouldn't have been Incan in the first place?

Though besides the point: We already need to supress a lot of disbelief in regards to the timeline, because the Incans and many other cultures weren't a thing when the Stargate was burried, implying that either the Goa'Uld came back via spaceships many times and abducted people from all over the world, which would lend credence to them just picking anyone and supplanting their favourite culture onto their new slaves.

The biggest issue with Stargate SG-1 is that it is based on a Roland Emmerich script based on a nonsense and widely discredited theory. It is actually pretty amazing that the show was as good as it was tbh.

I would say that the truly big problems SG-1 managed to invent all on its own such as the idea that the Ancients were the first evolution of humanity and came from another galaxy. Which handily ignores the Neanderthals. And the fact that we share most of our DNA with pigs.

Pig propaganda.

[hammerofglass]

Cannibals do claim pork and human flesh taste similar...

[Deledrius]

I would say that the truly big problems SG-1 managed to invent all on its own such as the idea that the Ancients were the first evolution of humanity and came from another galaxy. Which handily ignores the Neanderthals. And the fact that we share most of our DNA with pigs.

It's been a long time since my big watch-through, so I'm curious but can't remember: when was the humans-are-ancients thing established? Was that in the lead-up to Atlantis, or did it come earlier?

[Madner Kami]

I would say that the truly big problems SG-1 managed to invent all on its own such as the idea that the Ancients were the first evolution of humanity and came from another galaxy. Which handily ignores the Neanderthals. And the fact that we share most of our DNA with pigs.

It's been a long time since my big watch-through, so I'm curious but can't remember: when was the humans-are-ancients thing established? Was that in the lead-up to Atlantis, or did it come earlier?

To my knowledge: Never. Humans aren't an off-shot of the Ancients. However the Ancients... intermingled with humanity, leaving genetic markers behind.

[clearspira]

I would say that the truly big problems SG-1 managed to invent all on its own such as the idea that the Ancients were the first evolution of humanity and came from another galaxy. Which handily ignores the Neanderthals. And the fact that we share most of our DNA with pigs.

It's been a long time since my big watch-through, so I'm curious but can't remember: when was the humans-are-ancients thing established? Was that in the lead-up to Atlantis, or did it come earlier?

The very first time this is mentioned is season 6, ep 4 ''Frozen'' where SG-1 unearth an Ancient woman Captain America-style from the same facility as the Antarctic gate. The stated figure is fifty million years ago for the age of the Antarctic DHD and ''several million'' for the woman in question. Human beings irl are at most three hundred thousand years old.

O'Neill: Listen, could someone bottom line this for me?
Fraiser: Well sir, we could be looking at evidence that human beings evolved long before we thought they did.
Michaels: And maybe not even originally on this planet.
O'Neill: Darwin would be crushed.

We later learn (don't know when but at most season 9) that the Ancients came from the same galaxy as the Ori which is so far away you cannot even get there without an eighth chevron gate, a supergate, or a ZPM. From there they colonised the Milky Way and Pegasus. Humans first evolved literally billions of light years away. They are the reason why everyone in two galaxies look human, not because we were stolen from Earth as was originally said for like five seasons (that happened, it just wasn't the only reason).

Which is why I bring up pigs. And Neanderthals. And bananas. Yep. I said bananas. We share half of our genetic material with the famous bendy yellow fruit. The Ancients must have been STACKED to bring all of this crap with them huh?