The Deleted Captain Marvel Scene

[Mecha82]

I meant Terminator 2...

My bad. I should had realized that you were talking about T2 since you mentioned timeline change considering that both timelines and time travel are big part of that franchise. I can only blame myself for not picking that up.

[Yukaphile]

No prob.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

The problem of course is that if i do hate the next Cpt Marvel film for legitimate reasons people like you will still pull the sexism card.

Are they or am I specifically calling you sexist though? I personally feel like I've been trying to anchor it to my own take on it without really getting ahead of myself and presuming others' personal directives, though I might have gotten a bit loud at points.

[Madner Kami]

The problem of course is that if i do hate the next Cpt Marvel film for legitimate reasons people like you will still pull the sexism card.

Are they or am I specifically calling you sexist though? I personally feel like I've been trying to anchor it to my own take on it without really getting ahead of myself and presuming others' personal directives, though I might have gotten a bit loud at points.

One gets that vibe, though not necessarily from you, but CmdrKing and Mecha82 specifically and I find that pretty examplary for the discussions at large. You can't talk about Rey being a bad character or Captain Marvel being a shithead, without automatically creating a discussion about sexism, even though those characters being female has nothing to do with the complaint in the first place. Yes, it is that toxic and interestingly not just from those who are indeed sexists, but just as much as from the outrage-crowd of the other spectrum. One side jumps to your defense and the other side takes offense at everything.

[clearspira]

The problem of course is that if i do hate the next Cpt Marvel film for legitimate reasons people like you will still pull the sexism card.

Are they or am I specifically calling you sexist though? I personally feel like I've been trying to anchor it to my own take on it without really getting ahead of myself and presuming others' personal directives, though I might have gotten a bit loud at points.

I was clearly responding to Mecha given the quote and all...

[Worffan101]

See, this I actually find amusing. The guy groped her in public, which is actually assault. Him getting the snot kicked out of him is 100% deserved.

[Yukaphile]

Probably that same old bullshit excuse, "a man cannot help himself." Tbf, she didn't look to be doing anything that bad. I bet it was a shocker to this asshole when his victim FOUGHT BACK.

[Mecha82]

The problem of course is that if i do hate the next Cpt Marvel film for legitimate reasons people like you will still pull the sexism card.

Are they or am I specifically calling you sexist though? I personally feel like I've been trying to anchor it to my own take on it without really getting ahead of myself and presuming others' personal directives, though I might have gotten a bit loud at points.

One gets that vibe, though not necessarily from you, but CmdrKing and Mecha82 specifically and I find that pretty examplary for the discussions at large. You can't talk about Rey being a bad character or Captain Marvel being a shithead, without automatically creating a discussion about sexism, even though those characters being female has nothing to do with the complaint in the first place. Yes, it is that toxic and interestingly not just from those who are indeed sexists, but just as much as from the outrage-crowd of the other spectrum. One side jumps to your defense and the other side takes offense at everything.

I am sure that I have pretty much made it clear that I am against both extremes and for things needing to be judged on case by case. I want to hear actual takes why those characters are bad instead of people screaming that they are "SJW" characters and labeling anyone who disagrees with that one. It's just that I have seen so often people on internet not giving those takes and instead labeling everything that they don't like as "SJW" so that they don't need to actually give valid arguments. And no Mary Sue isn't valid argument to me either without any valid arguments why that person thinks that that character is one. It's not that difficult to understand.

[Karha of Honor]

The problem of course is that if i do hate the next Cpt Marvel film for legitimate reasons people like you will still pull the sexism card.

Are they or am I specifically calling you sexist though? I personally feel like I've been trying to anchor it to my own take on it without really getting ahead of myself and presuming others' personal directives, though I might have gotten a bit loud at points.

One gets that vibe, though not necessarily from you, but CmdrKing and Mecha82 specifically and I find that pretty examplary for the discussions at large. You can't talk about Rey being a bad character or Captain Marvel being a shithead, without automatically creating a discussion about sexism, even though those characters being female has nothing to do with the complaint in the first place. Yes, it is that toxic and interestingly not just from those who are indeed sexists, but just as much as from the outrage-crowd of the other spectrum. One side jumps to your defense and the other side takes offense at everything.

I don't think is completely unreasonable to think that today's feminism is why they are shit characters and in the naughties or the 90s someone would have stopped the creatives before putting them out as they are. Fellow creative or a suit.

[clearspira]

See, this I actually find amusing. The guy groped her in public, which is actually assault. Him getting the snot kicked out of him is 100% deserved.

Doesn't look like he is getting the snot kicked out of him though. Looks like he deliberately did not fight back.
Also, no, I refuse to cheer violence. Also, two wrongs do not make a right, in this case one assault for one assault? That's how that works