Birds of Prey Is Currently On Course For Worst DC Opening Weekend

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thetrueelec wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:27 pm I love the double standard of movie with women having to be 'feminist' movies, but if this was a movie all about dudes no one would say it was about men's rights
What tipped me off that this is a feminist movie was Ewan Mcgregor and Margot Robbie saying that it is.
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clearspira wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:11 pm
Mecha82 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:36 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:56 pm
clearspira wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:12 am
Mecha82 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:17 am
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:02 am
Deledrius wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:17 am What's woke about BoP? I haven't seen it yet.
Ewan McGregor said he was, "proud to be involved in a film that was a feminist film that tackled misogyny."

Of course that's his take on the film and may not be others'.
So in your bizzarro world feminism and tackling misogny are now bad things? Is world went so up side down that there are young people that think that women shouldn't have rights and that misogny is good thing.
Has it occurred to you that some people watch movies for escapism? We just want to enjoy ourselves for a few hours and not be lectured about petty shit?
Grown ass man complaining that not all comic book movies are to his liking.
Admitily that what it also comes off like while also seeming petty. If being against misogny is petty shit to clearspira and to him not petty is complaining about movie not being for him then I can safely say that he isn't very mature grown ass man or at least he is insecure.
Nope. I chose my words very carefully. The misogyny that this film is against is of the 2020 1st world problems variety. The ''male gaze'' and ''mansplaining''. Things that don't actually matter at all but I'm supposed to sit here and say that they do Emperors New Clothes style. Does this film tackle female circumcision? Suffrage? Forced burkas? Arranged marriages? Honour killings? Anything that is truly meaningful at all? Of course not and why? Because gunning for some actual misogyny runs the risk of upsetting someone who has the power to stop this film from being shown.

Not only is it petty shit but its cowardly shit. It went for the path of absolute least resistance. And it has people like you gobbling up its supposed message like Homer Simpson eats doughnuts.
American films should deal with issues that America has, American needs to stop interfering in other countries affairs.

What this film addresses is very real to many women experience it every day, not everyone in the "first world" is a privileged as you are.
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When was male gaze an issue brought up in the movie?

Don't wait for the translation from American to English, yes or no?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:34 pm When was male gaze an issue brought up in the movie?

Don't wait for the translation from American to English, yes or no?
How about the female cop that got passed up for a promotion for an unqualified MAN
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Antiboyscout wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:22 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:34 pm When was male gaze an issue brought up in the movie?

Don't wait for the translation from American to English, yes or no?
How about the female cop that got passed up for a promotion for an unqualified MAN
I meant specifically. If you found that subplot though there distracting then fair enough I suppose. I think it served fine if just for a punchline for her to quit her job.
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clearspira wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:12 am
Mecha82 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:17 am
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:02 am
Deledrius wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:17 am What's woke about BoP? I haven't seen it yet.
Ewan McGregor said he was, "proud to be involved in a film that was a feminist film that tackled misogyny."

Of course that's his take on the film and may not be others'.
So in your bizzarro world feminism and tackling misogny are now bad things? Is world went so up side down that there are young people that think that women shouldn't have rights and that misogny is good thing.
Has it occurred to you that some people watch movies for escapism? We just want to enjoy ourselves for a few hours and not be lectured about petty shit?

Oh, wait. Sorry. I forgot. The "male gaze" and "mansplaining" are the most pressing issues of our time lol. That is what happens when the only demons left to slay are mice, problems have to be invented so your movement remains relevant.
I dunno man, it seemed to provide a great escape for me, and for lots of other viewers who just happen to not be easily-offended straight men. :P
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J!! wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:59 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:57 am Oh, one more complaint: glad we got one canon lesbian character in it but it could have used more gay stuff. Then again, most things are better with increased gay stuff.
wait, were zsasz and sionis not together?
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clearspira wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:11 pm
Mecha82 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:36 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:56 pm
clearspira wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:12 am
Mecha82 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:17 am
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:02 am
Deledrius wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:17 am What's woke about BoP? I haven't seen it yet.
Ewan McGregor said he was, "proud to be involved in a film that was a feminist film that tackled misogyny."

Of course that's his take on the film and may not be others'.
So in your bizzarro world feminism and tackling misogny are now bad things? Is world went so up side down that there are young people that think that women shouldn't have rights and that misogny is good thing.
Has it occurred to you that some people watch movies for escapism? We just want to enjoy ourselves for a few hours and not be lectured about petty shit?
Grown ass man complaining that not all comic book movies are to his liking.
Admitily that what it also comes off like while also seeming petty. If being against misogny is petty shit to clearspira and to him not petty is complaining about movie not being for him then I can safely say that he isn't very mature grown ass man or at least he is insecure.
Nope. I chose my words very carefully. The misogyny that this film is against is of the 2020 1st world problems variety. The ''male gaze'' and ''mansplaining''. Things that don't actually matter at all but I'm supposed to sit here and say that they do Emperors New Clothes style. Does this film tackle female circumcision? Suffrage? Forced burkas? Arranged marriages? Honour killings? Anything that is truly meaningful at all? Of course not and why? Because gunning for some actual misogyny runs the risk of upsetting someone who has the power to stop this film from being shown.
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Not only is it petty shit but its cowardly shit. It went for the path of absolute least resistance. And it has people like you gobbling up its supposed message like Homer Simpson eats doughnuts.
Yes Black Mask forcing a woman to undress under threat of harm is 'petty shit.' Montoya not being promoted and treated like crap is 'petty shit'. Also don't think I don't see the racism in what you say is 'meaningful' misogyny.
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Look we all know that clearspira didn't even watch movie and he has admited it so it's safe to say that he doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to this. It's not like I have anything against him as person but he has shown ignorance in this topic that he keeps claiming to be truth. I guess it's just easier for him to be hypocrite.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:34 pm When was male gaze an issue brought up in the movie?

Don't wait for the translation from American to English, yes or no?
Margot the Wise stated in interview that this was the reason for the swap from hot pants to her current outfit. Because stopping men staring at the bums of fictional characters is a blow against oppression (basically what she said).
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