The Deleted Captain Marvel Scene

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Mecha82 wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 10:21 pm I do wonder what those that defend behavior like that on internet would say if roles were reversed and it was woman who went all bad touch on man.
I'm fine with legally punitive measures being equated. But on a general social level, it's stupid to equivocate consideration across sexes without due consideration of physical power dynamics.
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Yukaphile wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:49 am Yes, I miss the 1990s. Flaws aside, like the lack of LGBT representation, there were lots of great actors and fully fleshed out characters back then. Not so much now.
Brother there might be 10 times as many ongoing tv series now compared to the 90s. i have no idea what you are talking about.

You also gained more access to tv series and cinema from all across the world.

What do you mean there are no great actors now?
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The problem of course is that if i do hate the next Cpt Marvel film for legitimate reasons people like you will still pull the sexism card.
Are they or am I specifically calling you sexist though? I personally feel like I've been trying to anchor it to my own take on it without really getting ahead of myself and presuming others' personal directives, though I might have gotten a bit loud at points.
One gets that vibe, though not necessarily from you, but CmdrKing and Mecha82 specifically and I find that pretty examplary for the discussions at large. You can't talk about Rey being a bad character or Captain Marvel being a shithead, without automatically creating a discussion about sexism, even though those characters being female has nothing to do with the complaint in the first place. Yes, it is that toxic and interestingly not just from those who are indeed sexists, but just as much as from the outrage-crowd of the other spectrum. One side jumps to your defense and the other side takes offense at everything.
I don't think is completely unreasonable to think that today's feminism is why they are shit characters and in the naughties or the 90s someone would have stopped the creatives before putting them out as they are. Fellow creative or a suit.
Nostalgic for the nuanced and well-characterized storytelling of the EXTREEEEEEME 90s like BludGun and 25 different toy commercials?
Nostalgic for a differnet political atmosphere when it came to big budget stuff.
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:32 am
Mecha82 wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 10:21 pm I do wonder what those that defend behavior like that on internet would say if roles were reversed and it was woman who went all bad touch on man.
Well, if a woman groped a man, a man should be allowed to do whatever a woman can do to a male groper.

There's a word for saying "we get allowed to do this, but you can't." It starts with "hypo." You might be familiar with it.
Sure. After all groping without consent is wrong no matter member of gender that is doing it to member of other gender or even member of same gender doing it. Sure they can be those that allow it but it's just common sense not to do it without knowing that.

That last part seemed like jab at me because you do seem to like to make assumptions about other people based on do they agree with you or not.
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Mecha82 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:57 am
Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:32 am
Mecha82 wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 10:21 pm I do wonder what those that defend behavior like that on internet would say if roles were reversed and it was woman who went all bad touch on man.
Well, if a woman groped a man, a man should be allowed to do whatever a woman can do to a male groper.

There's a word for saying "we get allowed to do this, but you can't." It starts with "hypo." You might be familiar with it.
Sure. After all groping without consent is wrong no matter member of gender that is doing it to member of other gender or even member of same gender doing it. Sure they can be those that allow it but it's just common sense not to do it without knowing that.

That last part seemed like jab at me because you do seem to like to make assumptions about other people based on do they agree with you or not.
Look at your side in the political violence thread...

It does not come out from nothing...
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:00 am
Mecha82 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:57 am
Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:32 am
Mecha82 wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 10:21 pm I do wonder what those that defend behavior like that on internet would say if roles were reversed and it was woman who went all bad touch on man.
Well, if a woman groped a man, a man should be allowed to do whatever a woman can do to a male groper.

There's a word for saying "we get allowed to do this, but you can't." It starts with "hypo." You might be familiar with it.
Sure. After all groping without consent is wrong no matter member of gender that is doing it to member of other gender or even member of same gender doing it. Sure they can be those that allow it but it's just common sense not to do it without knowing that.

That last part seemed like jab at me because you do seem to like to make assumptions about other people based on do they agree with you or not.
Look at your side in the political violence thread...

It does not come out from nothing...
Yeah? Well look at your side in the "I'm stupid" thread!
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:04 am
Yeah? Well look at your side in the "I'm stupid" thread!
Care to eaborate?
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:19 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:04 am
Yeah? Well look at your side in the "I'm stupid" thread!
Care to eaborate?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:20 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:19 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:04 am
Yeah? Well look at your side in the "I'm stupid" thread!
Care to eaborate?
Yuka yelled at me last time I used his big wall of text as a copypasta response.
I don't do that.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:53 am
Yukaphile wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:49 am Yes, I miss the 1990s. Flaws aside, like the lack of LGBT representation, there were lots of great actors and fully fleshed out characters back then. Not so much now.
Brother there might be 10 times as many ongoing tv series now compared to the 90s. i have no idea what you are talking about.

You also gained more access to tv series and cinema from all across the world.

What do you mean there are no great actors now?
Quality, not quantity please! And even if you've got the same quality too much and it just becomes another bit of the routine. It's like food. Have an unhealthy treat occasionally and it's something special, with no downsides. Get it all the time and it's great at first but becomes routine and nothing special, and you get fat.
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Riedquat wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:12 pm
Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:53 am
Yukaphile wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:49 am Yes, I miss the 1990s. Flaws aside, like the lack of LGBT representation, there were lots of great actors and fully fleshed out characters back then. Not so much now.
Brother there might be 10 times as many ongoing tv series now compared to the 90s. i have no idea what you are talking about.

You also gained more access to tv series and cinema from all across the world.

What do you mean there are no great actors now?
Quality, not quantity please! And even if you've got the same quality too much and it just becomes another bit of the routine. It's like food. Have an unhealthy treat occasionally and it's something special, with no downsides. Get it all the time and it's great at first but becomes routine and nothing special, and you get fat.
TNG would be dead on arrival today because people expect better from seaosn 1's.

i have a no fat diet, i don't try to watch all the great movies from across the world all at once.
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