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Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:24 am
by hammerofglass
Tell us again how you're not a tanky?

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:59 pm
by KuudereKun
hammerofglass wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:24 am Tell us again how you're not a tanky?
This is amusing, my question traditional Anti-Soviet somehow proves I must be a Tankie. Even though I've also made clear I actually prefer the Left SRs to even Lenin much less Stalin or Trotsky. To you people either Stalin is Jesus or Stalin is Satan, he can't be somewhere in-between.

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:11 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:59 pm either Stalin is Jesus or Stalin is Satan, he can't be somewhere in-between.
It's things like this you say that, for a brief moment, seem reasonable enough to consider, but then come off completely unfounded once thinking about it. Nobody compares Stalin directly to Hitler, and he's much less showcased than Mussolini.

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:15 pm
by KuudereKun
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:11 pm
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:59 pm either Stalin is Jesus or Stalin is Satan, he can't be somewhere in-between.
It's things like this you say that, for a brief moment, seem reasonable enough to consider, but then come off completely unfounded once thinking about it. I've never heard anybody praise Stalin in political consideration.
So you've never actually interacted an actual Tankie, that's good to know.

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:46 pm
by hammerofglass
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:59 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:24 am Tell us again how you're not a tanky?
This is amusing, my question traditional Anti-Soviet somehow proves I must be a Tankie. Even though I've also made clear I actually prefer the Left SRs to even Lenin much less Stalin or Trotsky. To you people either Stalin is Jesus or Stalin is Satan, he can't be somewhere in-between.
What do you mean "you people"? There are folks from all over the political spectrum in this conversation.

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:31 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:15 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:11 pm
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:59 pm either Stalin is Jesus or Stalin is Satan, he can't be somewhere in-between.
It's things like this you say that, for a brief moment, seem reasonable enough to consider, but then come off completely unfounded once thinking about it. I've never heard anybody praise Stalin in political consideration.
So you've never actually interacted an actual Tankie, that's good to know.
There’s all sorts of people that will say all sorts of things. You can very well find people praising Hitler, so what’s your point?

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:37 pm
by Madner Kami
hammerofglass wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:46 pm
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:59 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:24 am Tell us again how you're not a tanky?
This is amusing, my question traditional Anti-Soviet somehow proves I must be a Tankie. Even though I've also made clear I actually prefer the Left SRs to even Lenin much less Stalin or Trotsky. To you people either Stalin is Jesus or Stalin is Satan, he can't be somewhere in-between.
What do you mean "you people"? There are folks from all over the political spectrum in this conversation.
Everyone who isn't him or agreeing with him is "you people". You know, totalitarism. The thing he's quite clearly a fan of.

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:23 pm
by KuudereKun
I've clarified my position on Stalin multiple times already but people "all over the political spectrum" keep insisting on misconstruing it.

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:08 pm
by Madner Kami
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:23 pm I've clarified my position on Stalin multiple times already but people "all over the political spectrum" keep insisting on misconstruing it.
Has it occured to you, that they may have a point and you have a blind-spot?

Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:50 pm
by KuudereKun
Madner Kami wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:08 pm
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:23 pm I've clarified my position on Stalin multiple times already but people "all over the political spectrum" keep insisting on misconstruing it.
Has it occured to you, that they may have a point and you have a blind-spot?
No, you don't get to make excuse about simply accusing someone of believing the opposite of what they believe.