Your Headcanons?

[J!!]

So Earth government put a ban on android development

Oh! So that's why everything in the reboot movies has that damn shiny white iPod aesthetic.

[Redshrit Survivor]

why is Tim Russ in some episode as a villain?
Simple Tuvok is an Agent of Section 34.

[Rocketboy1313]

Battlestar Galactica
Terminator
Firefly
Dark City
The Matrix
And Dune are all in the same timeline.

[phantom000]

Battlestar Galactica
Terminator
Firefly
Dark City
The Matrix
And Dune are all in the same timeline.

I have never seen Dark City or Firefly but i have seen a few episodes of the new Battlestar Galactica, i assume you mean the new one. I would very much like to know how Dune fits into this picture.

I had a thought once that maybe the Second Galactic Empire of the Foundation series was actually the old imperium mentioned in Dune.

[SlackerinDeNile]

why is Tim Russ in some episode as a villain?
Simple Tuvok is an Agent of Section 34.

Don't you mean Section 31? Isn't Section 34 the Federation black ops organisation based around spreading the joy of porn and sex?

[J!!]

Battlestar Galactica
Terminator
Firefly
Dark City
The Matrix
And Dune are all in the same timeline.

I have never seen Dark City or Firefly but i have seen a few episodes of the new Battlestar Galactica, i assume you mean the new one. I would very much like to know how Dune fits into this picture.

I had a thought once that maybe the Second Galactic Empire of the Foundation series was actually the old imperium mentioned in Dune.

The empire of Dune is largely shaped by an event called The Butlerian Jihad, in which humanity rebelled against the 'thinking machines' that had taken control of their lives. Following this, all computers & forms of automation were outlawed. Even a palmreader door lock run entirely by clockwork is seen as pushing it.

Jihad, Butlerian: (see also Great Revolt) — the crusade against computers, thinking machines, and conscious robots begun in 201 B.G. and concluded in 108 B.G. Its chief commandment remains in the O.C. Bible as "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."

That's why The Spice is so important; it's actually not the only way of navigating FTL, just the only way of doing so without computers. It's also why everything in Dune has the low-tech look that it does, despite being thousands of years in the future. The technology is actually very advanced, but along a different path of development from what we normally see in sci-fi. It's an entirely analog world, where nothing is allowed to happen without direct human control and decision making.

"The target of the Jihad was a machine-attitude as much as the machines," Leto said. "Humans had set those machines to usurp our sense of beauty, our necessary selfdom out of which we make living judgments. Naturally, the machines were destroyed."

Things like the mentats, the Guild Navigators, and the Bene Gesserit eugenics program all stem from this; instead of building machines to circumvent human limitations, build a better form of human, capable of overcoming said limitations.



Galactica, Terminator, and The Matrix could all be imagined as fitting somewhere into The Jihad, but I don't know where Firefly or Dark City come in.

[Rocketboy1313]

I envisioned "Firefly" as the humans who escaped Earth after the war with the Machines from Terminator. One of their colony ships was abducted by the aliens from "Dark City".

The humans left behind on Earth after the war with the machines were those that founded the Matrix.

It was my thinking that River Tam, John Murdoch, and Thomas "Neo" Anderson were the basis of what would become the Mentats and other psychics that allowed for the navigation of the stars and that their advanced abilities were what the Spice was unlocking. To me it is not hard to see the experimentations on River and John as precursors to Bene Gesserit, and Neo's manipulation of machines as a form of Mentat computer thinking.

I also threw in the idea of another war with the machines. The Centurions that left the original 13 colonies returned for a final age of humans and machines warring with each other.

Honestly, you could cut Dark City and Firefly and streamline the whole thing, but I include them because they are not too out there to necessitate exclusion.

Shit you could also throw in "Back to the Future" for time travel nonsense. The Terminators made it so you didn't have to be moving, but instead had to be naked. Kind of a flipped perspective. And it is SUPER EASY to include things like the Shoggoths and the Old Ones enmass in this system, the giant worms of Dune basically are Lovecraft esc kaiju.

[J!!]

why is Tim Russ in some episode as a villain?
Simple Tuvok is an Agent of Section 34.

Don't you mean Section 31? Isn't Section 34 the Federation black ops organisation based around spreading the joy of porn and sex?

Would any of us put such a thing past Roddenberry?

[The Romulan Republic]

I envisioned "Firefly" as the humans who escaped Earth after the war with the Machines from Terminator. One of their colony ships was abducted by the aliens from "Dark City".

The humans left behind on Earth after the war with the machines were those that founded the Matrix.

It was my thinking that River Tam, John Murdoch, and Thomas "Neo" Anderson were the basis of what would become the Mentats and other psychics that allowed for the navigation of the stars and that their advanced abilities were what the Spice was unlocking. To me it is not hard to see the experimentations on River and John as precursors to Bene Gesserit, and Neo's manipulation of machines as a form of Mentat computer thinking.

I also threw in the idea of another war with the machines. The Centurions that left the original 13 colonies returned for a final age of humans and machines warring with each other.

Honestly, you could cut Dark City and Firefly and streamline the whole thing, but I include them because they are not too out there to necessitate exclusion.

Shit you could also throw in "Back to the Future" for time travel nonsense. The Terminators made it so you didn't have to be moving, but instead had to be naked. Kind of a flipped perspective. And it is SUPER EASY to include things like the Shoggoths and the Old Ones enmass in this system, the giant worms of Dune basically are Lovecraft esc kaiju.

I posted a theory a while back that Mad Max takes place in the Firefly 'verse, Mad Max's world being what's left behind on Earth That Was.

Also... every time I read your user name now, I think of Kim Jong Un. Blame Donald Trump.

[Rocketboy1313]

I posted a theory a while back that Mad Max takes place in the Firefly 'verse, Mad Max's world being what's left behind on Earth That Was.

This is not a bad theory. Especially how "Firefly" made it clear China and the US were the ones to hail mary into the black, everyone else is left fighting over what's left.

Also... every time I read your user name now, I think of Kim Jong Un. Blame Donald Trump.

I know. I'm aware.