GreyICE wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:21 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:19 am
Okay I watched the first episode and apparently I can't watch any more without putting thirteen silver pennies on the grave of a hanged man during the lunar eclipse while reciting the lord's prayer in pig latin.
That's sad because the first episode is easily the worst of the three.
But good description of CBS all access.
Personally I think you're luck to even get CBS All Access, I've only been able to see the first episode here in the UK, and that's only because I got ExpressVPN, they won't accept UK payments and trying to get a Gift Card requires me to give out personal information to complete strangers, yeah... if I'm gonna do that why don't I just burn all my money while I'm at it.
GreyICE wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:31 pm
Mariner is a comedy sendup of the entire notion of the "off the books officer". The one who is "a hard man who doesn't follow the rules, but gets results?" I mean come on, the police chief asking the newbie to "monitor X because I know he's up to no good" is just about the most classic setup for that sort of shit ever, and was clearly what they were riffing on. She tried to fight the first officer over who got to fight a death duel with a giant alien.
Pretty much, I like that Ensign Mariner is the kind of Officer that can list off the regulations off the top of her head, and clearly has years of real experience that would make her a great officer, but doesn’t care for the general Starfleet bureaucracy or even rising the ranks as they get in the way of doing genuine good, this not only makes her a great comedy duo with Ensign Boimler, but having her mother be her Captain is fantastic, not just for comedy but for a unique dynamic within the franchise.
I also think that if it was in her time, Ensign Mariner would be someone who would have joined the Maquis.
CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:53 pm
I view Lower Decks through a not quite literal lens because, well, it's a cartoon and comedy, so while I have no doubt events similar to this canonically happened in the Trekverse--I view it "GASP" as perhaps maybe just a comedic exaggeration. Yes, I'm a Trekkie arguing not to take something completely seriously.
That’s fair, me personally even with the comedy angle, I don’t see Lower Decks being out of place within the Star Trek universe, and it’s setting of being on the least important starship in the fleet helps with that, the USS Cerritos isn’t the USS Enterprise, so for me it makes sense that the crew of the USS Cerritos isn’t the best of Starfleet.
Also nearly every Star Trek series has been about the most important starships like the Enterprise’s, while others like Deep Space Nine and the USS Voyager have had extortionary thing thrusted upon them, so I love that Lower Decks is a series about the most unextraordinary starship in the fleet.
But even then what I love about this series is even with the comedy that could be used to justify poor decisions of the characters, none the them act incompetent, in the first episode they all make perfectly reasonable decisions based off of what information they had, even how the zombie plague started was while certainly a lack of foresight, is something I could easily see happening on any starship (and properly has happened on another Star Trek episode), and even shows the importance of Second Contact missions.