Re: Dystopian Science Fiction only reinforces the real world Status Quo
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:49 pm
I still haven't watched Invincible but that does sound pretty interesting.
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The thing is, people want to feel good about the status quo. They feel like they cannot do anything about things, so if you tell them and past and future are terrible compared to what you have, it makes them feel comfortable. People like feeling comfortable.MithrandirOlorin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:23 pm Lots of Slice of Life Amine depicts a Paradise Present, there's no reason a Paradise Future can't work. But that isn't what I wrote the above to discus.
I recently watched all of Durarara!! and it has a similar especially with the character of Shizuo Heiwajima who becomes of his naturally strength and rage is unbeatable in a fight even though he's had no trainer, multiple far more trained fighters consistently lose.MithrandirOlorin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:19 am A Certain Magical Index Deconstructs Meritocracy
During the Index account of the Sisters Arc back in season 1 we are shown how the official propaganda of Academy City is that any Esper could reach Level 5 if they try hard enough. But in Index III at the end of the plotline with the Item characters it is made clear how certain people had the known potential to be a level 5 very early on.
And this was always heavily implied, by the Sisters Arc itself Misaka was selected for the cloning experiment as a small child long before she was odically known to be a Level 5 yet the implications of that don't ever seme to be something that's occurred to her. We've also seen that Accelerator and Mental Out were already already singled out to be experimented on as small children.
And now I feel compelled to return once again to The Last Jedi/Sequel Trilogy discourse. The fact that so many online leftists think it's more Left Wing for anyone to be equally a potential Jedi shows how actually Liberal their mindset still is.
Leftists are Materialists, we acknowledge that some people do have innate natural advantages to being able to be successful that most people don't have. We are the opposite of Nazis in that we reject that those with innate advantages should actually be considered more valuable. But to deny the innate advantages exist ultimately serves the interest of Conservatives, it lets them convince themselves those already with power must be the ones who earned it.
The Raildex Anime are better social commentary then any Dystopic Science Fiction precisely because they are avoiding the usual Aesthetics of Dystopia. It's world is different from the real world but about the same in how Free or not Free it's society is.
I justified my claim several times over.CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 1:01 am I still say the argument is wrong because it makes a wild unjustifiable claim.
"Utopian fiction only reinforces the status quo by implying things will get better."
How about you make that claim nice and simple for us then.MithrandirOlorin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 5:23 amI justified my claim several times over.CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 1:01 am I still say the argument is wrong because it makes a wild unjustifiable claim.
"Utopian fiction only reinforces the status quo by implying things will get better."
I mean and I rebutted it to.MithrandirOlorin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 5:23 amI justified my claim several times over.CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 1:01 am I still say the argument is wrong because it makes a wild unjustifiable claim.
"Utopian fiction only reinforces the status quo by implying things will get better."
Completely missing the point.CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:27 amI mean and I rebutted it to.MithrandirOlorin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 5:23 amI justified my claim several times over.CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 1:01 am I still say the argument is wrong because it makes a wild unjustifiable claim.
"Utopian fiction only reinforces the status quo by implying things will get better."
It's also funny because it's the same argument in TOMORROWLAND and Jenny fucking Nicholson (not exactly a harsh academic source) tore into it in her review of that movie. She's like, "1984 isn't aspirational. No one is going to read that and go 'wow, that's a really good idea.' It's a warning and gets you to think."