The Mandalorian

[Captain Crimson]

Here is an issue from TM. Baby Yoda Species character just casually uses the Force like Rey has done in the ST. I know what people are going to say, he's 50 years old, and maybe, but that's also like a baby for his species. What human baby can bench-press 100 lbs at six months? It just strikes me as what Freddie Prinze Jr. was ranting about - that he knew Mr. Lucas so well, Mr. Filoni taught him, that "the Force just happens." And yet, there is a physical element to it as well. This goes all the way back to 1977. So why train at all? That's taking the idea of Force destiny to an insane degree.

[Draco Dracul]

Here is an issue from TM. Baby Yoda Species character just casually uses the Force like Rey has done in the ST. I know what people are going to say, he's 50 years old, and maybe, but that's also like a baby for his species. What human baby can bench-press 100 lbs at six months? It just strikes me as what Freddie Prinze Jr. was ranting about - that he knew Mr. Lucas so well, Mr. Filoni taught him, that "the Force just happens." And yet, there is a physical element to it as well. This goes all the way back to 1977. So why train at all? That's taking the idea of Force destiny to an insane degree.

Where has there ever been shown to be a physical element to it in the films? Because pretty much all the training we've ever seen has been about building a mind set rather than doing force sit ups.

[Captain Crimson]

Here is an issue from TM. Baby Yoda Species character just casually uses the Force like Rey has done in the ST. I know what people are going to say, he's 50 years old, and maybe, but that's also like a baby for his species. What human baby can bench-press 100 lbs at six months? It just strikes me as what Freddie Prinze Jr. was ranting about - that he knew Mr. Lucas so well, Mr. Filoni taught him, that "the Force just happens." And yet, there is a physical element to it as well. This goes all the way back to 1977. So why train at all? That's taking the idea of Force destiny to an insane degree.

Where has there ever been shown to be a physical element to it in the films? Because pretty much all the training we've ever seen has been about building a mind set rather than doing force sit ups.

It is about a mindset, but it also has some degree of physical training to it. Otherwise, why would Luke be running and doing push-ups? The impression Yoda gave is that heightened his Force senses and helped him grow into that mindset. It's consistent to what Obi-Wan said, that it controls your actions, partially, but also obeys your commands. And with the introduction of midi-chlorians in the prequels I'd say that is 100% proof there is a physical aspect. Just because people like Mr. Abrams like to soft-key pretend they never existed doesn't make that the case.

This also debunks your own argument, because what mindset do you expect the equivalent of a six-month baby to have? It is more of the "stuff just happens" mindset the creators tell you the show is about.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

It's never established that physical training is necessary. The narrative tends to dictate otherwise for everything concerned.

[Captain Crimson]

It's never established that physical training is necessary. The narrative tends to dictate otherwise for everything concerned.

Okay, my point is this, then. Do you really expect a Force-sensitive human baby to perform any kind of Force abilities, at all? Past the relativity argument you could make about this being a Baby Yoda Species character? I know they said it was 50 in the show, but again, that's the human equivalent of a six-month infant. Force pushing away a bad guy breaks down my suspension of disbelief, same way it was for some of the stuff Rey did. At least in TROS, it takes place some time later, and she's not a toddler.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

It's never established that physical training is necessary. The narrative tends to dictate otherwise for everything concerned.

Okay, my point is this, then. Do you really expect a Force-sensitive human baby to perform any kind of Force abilities, at all? Past the relativity argument you could make about this being a Baby Yoda Species character? I know they said it was 50 in the show, but again, that's the human equivalent of a six-month infant. Force pushing away a bad guy breaks down my suspension of disbelief, same way it was for some of the stuff Rey did. At least in TROS, it takes place some time later, and she's not a toddler.

I think you're the only person in a probability sample that's going to have a problem with it.

The force is very naturally an extension of someone's will. If a baby sees a charging bull at someone it reasonably can infer that hostility is going on.

The first thing that comes to mind is that maybe whatever species it is is more receptive to the force. Possibly because of or in conjunction with their slow aging. That's pretty much what anybody was saying about him.

I seriously think you have to go pretty far out of your way to try to pick this apart as hack material. Like really hard out of your way.

[Captain Crimson]

It's never established that physical training is necessary. The narrative tends to dictate otherwise for everything concerned.

Okay, my point is this, then. Do you really expect a Force-sensitive human baby to perform any kind of Force abilities, at all? Past the relativity argument you could make about this being a Baby Yoda Species character? I know they said it was 50 in the show, but again, that's the human equivalent of a six-month infant. Force pushing away a bad guy breaks down my suspension of disbelief, same way it was for some of the stuff Rey did. At least in TROS, it takes place some time later, and she's not a toddler.

I think you're the only person in a probability sample that's going to have a problem with it.

The force is very naturally an extension of someone's will. If a baby sees a charging bull at someone it reasonably can infer that hostility is going on.

The first thing that comes to mind is that maybe whatever species it is is more receptive to the force. Possibly because of or in conjunction with their slow aging. That's pretty much what anybody was saying about him.

I seriously think you have to go pretty far out of your way to try to pick this apart as hack material. Like really hard out of your way.

Never said it was hack material. And it is season 1. Things should easily shape up. Historically, that's how it's been with other SF.

[Draco Dracul]

It's never established that physical training is necessary. The narrative tends to dictate otherwise for everything concerned.

Okay, my point is this, then. Do you really expect a Force-sensitive human baby to perform any kind of Force abilities, at all? Past the relativity argument you could make about this being a Baby Yoda Species character? I know they said it was 50 in the show, but again, that's the human equivalent of a six-month infant. Force pushing away a bad guy breaks down my suspension of disbelief, same way it was for some of the stuff Rey did. At least in TROS, it takes place some time later, and she's not a toddler.

Yes I would because an infant doesn't know that what they are doing is impossible.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

It's never established that physical training is necessary. The narrative tends to dictate otherwise for everything concerned.

Okay, my point is this, then. Do you really expect a Force-sensitive human baby to perform any kind of Force abilities, at all? Past the relativity argument you could make about this being a Baby Yoda Species character? I know they said it was 50 in the show, but again, that's the human equivalent of a six-month infant. Force pushing away a bad guy breaks down my suspension of disbelief, same way it was for some of the stuff Rey did. At least in TROS, it takes place some time later, and she's not a toddler.

Yes I would because an infant doesn't know that what they are doing is impossible.

Some do.

[CharlesPhipps]

It also takes Star Wars back to it's roots of semi-adapting Samurai films and westerns, with the primary one here being Lone Wolf and Cub.

Firefly is basically a good example of Star Wars world-building effectively for similar reasons. If it had just been "The Smuggler show" it could have been slotted into the actual Star Wars EU with very few changes.

Anyway, while Baby Yoda was the breakout character, Pedro Pascal also gives a good enough performance as a hardluck hero to work for the show to be around. It's kind of Police Academy, Steve Guttenberg is no one's favorite character in those movies, but the series good entries revolve around him because he provides the grounding for all the lunacy.