DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

For all topics regarding speculative fiction of every stripe. Otherwise known as the Geek Cave.
User avatar
CharlesPhipps
Captain
Posts: 4700
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:06 pm

Re: DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

Post by CharlesPhipps »

Wargriffin wrote:Kate made the right decision... from the Way Basil was reacting to the serum... WE SAW IT FAILING and Basil himself was pretty convinced he was about to change back and hurt Cass.
I'm going to challenge the usual Bat-Morality being "wrong" despite the fact I'm with John Stewart when the Guardians gave the Green Lanterns the authority to use lethal force due to the threat of the Sinestro Corps i.e. "it's a right which should be exercised only when necessary but is sometimes necessary." Specifically, Kate is full of crap here and should be arrested. Why? Because the reason Batman doesn't kill isn't just because he's a traumatized orphan with a love of life but because he is an illegal vigilante who holds himself to the standard of not deciding who lives or dies.

Kate's father, literally, just ran a murder squad of Batmen just a few issues ago and she learned nothing from it. It's doubly insane because her father WAS a legitimate and legal member of the United States military with authority to do what he was doing while she is just someone wandering around in a costume. Given the gross abuses of power by legitimate authority, the fact the Batman doesn't kill is the only sign he's not insane and actually worried about the consequences of his actions.

Also, the fact Basil was in this universe an innocent victim of a horrible curse and their ostensible friend.
User avatar
Wargriffin
Captain
Posts: 570
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:17 pm

Re: DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

Post by Wargriffin »

Except none of those factors matter in this scenario, Which is 'was Kate justified in Killing Basil' What Jacob's done to fight the League of shadows 'Who might I add did exist and snuck a thermal nuclear device under Gotham without Bruce noticing' is on Jacob not Kate

two if Bruce cared about legality he'd have turned himself in for numerous violations 'destruction of property, breaking and entering without a warrant and constant fleeing and escaping law enforcement when he is a suspect'

but lets look at the scenario as it was.

Basil was rampaging, yes he had been emotionally tortured to the point his mind was broken as referenced a number of times Basil's emotional state effects his morality while in full Clay face due to what it does to his brain chemistry.

Cass almost talked him down before but that was before the mudroom blew open which pretty much 10X to his mass thus his problems

The Serum was said to work based on the persons's emotional state 'Flowery' IE if Basil thought he was person it would work if he thought he was still a monster it would fail. Th serum failed and we see it failing

Tim and Bruce presented NO other plan in case the serum failed 'This is the big factor here' in fact he presents no alternative when they are arguing

You have Cass and mob of fleeing civilians about to be at the mercy of a Clayface Kaiju 'which Tim himself designates as the most dangerous thing in Gotham.

You either deal with him before he fully transforms back or gamble with other peoples lives
"When you rule by fear, your greatest weakness is the one who's no longer afraid."
User avatar
Wargriffin
Captain
Posts: 570
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:17 pm

Re: DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

Post by Wargriffin »

Injustice 2 #46

Well thats anticlimatic
"When you rule by fear, your greatest weakness is the one who's no longer afraid."
User avatar
Wargriffin
Captain
Posts: 570
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:17 pm

Re: DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

Post by Wargriffin »

So DC is shaking up the majority of its line up due to No Justice and apparently ALL Super Family books are getting cancelled cause the Bendipocalypse is here and the entire Super line is being restructured around him


DC this seems like a BAD move
"When you rule by fear, your greatest weakness is the one who's no longer afraid."
PlasmaHam
Redshirt
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:25 am

Re: DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

Post by PlasmaHam »

Wargriffin wrote:Injustice 2 #46

Well thats anticlimatic
Ikr, climatic plot-twists really don't work when the audience determined what the twist would be months ago.


Wargriffin wrote:So DC is shaking up the majority of its line up due to No Justice and apparently ALL Super Family books are getting cancelled cause the Bendipocalypse is here and the entire Super line is being restructured around him


DC this seems like a BAD move
'No Justice' looks like it could be good. Let's be honest, the Justice League books in Rebirth have been among the weakest. A shake-up is welcome in my opinion.

Superman books on the other hand... Look, I'm not a Bendis hater, but the Superman books are so good right now, don't change it!
User avatar
Wargriffin
Captain
Posts: 570
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:17 pm

Re: DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

Post by Wargriffin »

Feels like Bendis has just been given an entire Pillar of the DC verse... and He's gonna be the only one in the toy box for the moment.


Super Sons was good
I preferred New 52 Kara to Rebirth Kara but it wasn't that bad... This just feels like disaster waiting to happen
"When you rule by fear, your greatest weakness is the one who's no longer afraid."
User avatar
Wargriffin
Captain
Posts: 570
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:17 pm

Re: DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

Post by Wargriffin »

"When you rule by fear, your greatest weakness is the one who's no longer afraid."
User avatar
yamiangie
Redshirt
Posts: 35
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:25 pm

Re: DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

Post by yamiangie »

PlasmaHam wrote:
Wargriffin wrote:Injustice 2 #46

Well thats anticlimatic
Ikr, climatic plot-twists really don't work when the audience determined what the twist would be months ago.
Guns were a dead give away. Sort of like before they confirmed Bucky Cap was Bucky.
User avatar
Wargriffin
Captain
Posts: 570
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:17 pm

Re: DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

Post by Wargriffin »

Aquaman continues to be the best Rebirth book

The Crown comes DOWN

now only the Tyrant Rath remains

also... Long Live the Queen... Liked Arthur calling Tula sister since Tula and Orm are now half siblings

Nightwing...

I was confused by the flashback since it shows him talking to Donna Roy and Wally... the I realized its due to the art

Flashback Dick looks older then Present Dick!!!

Also... WHALE GENES SON


Justice league

The JL continue to be outsmarted by an evil Geoff Johns... Its kinda amusing
"When you rule by fear, your greatest weakness is the one who's no longer afraid."
User avatar
Wargriffin
Captain
Posts: 570
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:17 pm

Re: DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

Post by Wargriffin »

Forget Doomsday!


The True Unstoppable DC Juggernaut that deserves your respect is NONE OTHER THEN!!!


Image
"When you rule by fear, your greatest weakness is the one who's no longer afraid."
Post Reply