Dangerous Design Flaws Starships Should Never Be Allowed To Leave The Shipyards With

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SuccubusYuri wrote:We're on Page 2 and nothing about the whales?
NO you can't pretend! They mention it on screen, we all know what it was!
16. You should not bring pets or even whales onto a spaceship that will spearhead diplomatic missions
Whales and animals tend not to be as sensitive to local customs as a human diplomat. What's more, animal enclosures may have very different structural requirements than human crew quarters, and damage to said enclosures may endanger the rest of the starship unnecessarily.
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Nessus wrote:
GloatingSwine wrote:11. Docking bays or hangars without doors

Not only would this prevent a power failure in the bay forcefields letting all the space in, it would also provide some kind of way to discriminate between friendly and hostile craft accessing the hangar.
More of a Star Wars than Star Trek thing, IIRC. In Trek hangers all have physical doors, the force field is actually an extra layer for when the doors are open, and thus a legit safety feature. In Star Wars hanger doors seem to have suffered the same fate as handrails.

I'd assume that the force field only passes objects with the right clearance or IFF. This is explicitly the case in Star Wars, though it does seem to occasionally forget to exist on a plot-convenience basis. The Endor and Scarif shields needed code clearance to pass through, but Poe & Finn leave a Star Destroyer hanger VERY unauthorized without having to contend with the shield. The Falcon's escape in EPIV seems like an example until you remember they were deliberately allowed to escape, so that might actually be a JJ thing.
I'm p. sure the Galactica suffered at least one "raider in the hangar bay" incident in one or other of the series too. Also, whilst Star Trek docking bays might have emergency doors we actually see them being open to space barring a force field in normal operation, meaning that there would be considerable risk to working personnel if the fields failed. (And important system failures on a Federation vessel occur at a worrying rate).
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For me it's long, slender hull sections that could be easily blown off, especially when it comes to vital areas.

The command section of the bird of prey is a good exmaple as is almost every placement of a warp nacelle in Star Trek
16. You should not bring pets or even whales onto a spaceship that will spearhead diplomatic missions
Heresy!

There will always be a place on starships for a ship's cat!

Keep those nasty space rodents in check, ya know~

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Beastro wrote:
16. You should not bring pets or even whales onto a spaceship that will spearhead diplomatic missions
Heresy!

There will always be a place on starships for a ship's cat!

Keep those nasty space rodents in check, ya know~

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To be fair, cats are cute. An exception should be made for them.
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There's nothing wrong with having pets on the ship.

Just don't bring them down to the planet where your actual diplomatic mission is taking place and you're fine.
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Asvarduil wrote:To be fair, cats are cute. An exception should be made for them.
They are vicious predators that hunt for enjoyment. Introducing these into an alien environment is pretty much the worst thing you could do outside of bringing rats along.
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Cats are dangerous, but what happens if regulations forbid cats on starships? In every example I've seen, radiation leaks and the end of humanity as we know it.
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Darth Wedgius wrote:Cats are dangerous, but what happens if regulations forbid cats on starships? In every example I've seen, radiation leaks and the end of humanity as we know it.
To be fair a new race of cat people does arise.
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Robovski wrote:
Darth Wedgius wrote:Cats are dangerous, but what happens if regulations forbid cats on starships? In every example I've seen, radiation leaks and the end of humanity as we know it.
To be fair a new race of cat people does arise.
That is a good point -- the overall level fabulous in the cosmos does go up.
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Madner Kami wrote:
Asvarduil wrote:To be fair, cats are cute. An exception should be made for them.
They are vicious predators that hunt for enjoyment. Introducing these into an alien environment is pretty much the worst thing you could do outside of bringing rats along.
Yeah, but if the cat stays on the ship, you're not introducing it anywhere—and, as a bonus, you also reduce your chances of bringing rats along.
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