Star Wars movies now to be released every other year

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Yukaphile wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:10 am They give more of a fuck than Lucas ever did. They recently released a Legends comic. Lucas never would if he'd been in charge of a reboot.
I can't agree with that as Lucas was, by all accounts, in support of the Legends. Sure he would have gone ahead with this Reboot but when he was making the Prequels he didn't stop other writers from continuing their own work as this part of Star Wars History was pretty much unexplored. And @Mecha82 as for any instance of Lucas not caring about Legends I don't think that's the case at all. Speaking from experience in regards to the DC Animated Universe I'm working on, it IS in a different continuity from the Original DCAU but that is mostly down to elements from that series not lining up where I want to take my stories.

Case in point, I LOVE Batman Beyond but I don't want to include it as it doesn't line up with the stories about Batman I want to tell. Wonder Woman's origin story of how she became a superhero and came into the world of man is based on her 2017 movie and her character has more in common with her Worlds of DC counterpart.

I'm not telling a different story because I dislike anything from the DCAU I'm telling a new story in a new continuity because that's the story I want to tell. I've seen every DCAU episode and I'm looking forward to Justice League vs. The Fatal Five. But the stories I want to tell cannot work with the stories of the original DCAU and it's likely that Lucas felt the same way about the Legends as he Was a fan of a number of those stories, with ones like Dark Empire, he had likely read The Thrawn Trilogy due to the thematic similarities and according to some sources he was very adamant about the writers of the Clone Wars reading up on the Clone Wars Comics to get ideas from said comics.

I am 99.99% certain that had Lucas gone ahead with his Sequel Trilogy he likely Wouldn't have outright cancelled the Original EU as he knew a lot of people put a lot of effort into it and would have kept it going even with Legacy of the Force's tarnishing the EU's name. Say what you will about Lucas but he was very much on board with the EU as a place for writers to flourish with their ideas, even if he didn't consider it his canon.

Disney on the other hand, cancelled the entire EU ending a number of series prematurely, cancelled The Clone Wars despite having good ratings, and tried to ignore any and all references to the Legends series until recently. I know Lucas has flaws as a writer but I can't agree that he didn't care about Legends or didn't respect it as all we have seems to suggest that he Did respect it and even liked it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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If Lucas had been in charge of the sequels, and rebooted them, would we still have Legends? I sincerely doubt it.
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I am sure that Lucas would had cancelled entire Legends to try to get rid off it. What Disney did was smart allowing new Legends material being made alongside with new canon material making sure that those that like Legends can stay invested with franchise even if it possibly it wasn't they intend. And besides Legends exist and is part of SW so there is no point trying to pretend otherwise and it would had only managed to anger even more fans. Not entire SW fandom of course because like all other fandoms SW one isn't some hive mind were everyone shares all same opinions instead of just sharing they love towards SW.
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Yukaphile wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:10 am They give more of a fuck than Lucas ever did. They recently released a Legends comic. Lucas never would if he'd been in charge of a reboot.
Who gives a fuck, Dark Horse did a solid job. they released Crimson Empire volume 3 when they did not have too.

Everyone did okay or well minus for the LOTF books and after as far as i am concerned.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:53 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:19 pm
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It would be essentially a different story, but what you said is just kinda self evident.
i am not sure, plenty of people caped for TLJ when it arrived.

Not just usernames and social media randos, like journalists.
Journalists/critics have a certain detachment and lens in lieu of fans. They'll base their opinions strongly on ulterior themes and originality next to overall execution of story and characters.

Anyway though yeah if you as a vested fan thinks the story sucks then like not much else is really going to enhance your opinion of it, which is completely understandable.
I disagree.
Given that I was agreeing with you for a considerable amount of my post, I'm not sure what you're referring to, or if you know the difference between critics and fanboys. Or at least, Rotten Tomatoes and something of the likes of CinemaScore/Metacritic.
Journalists/critics have a certain detachment and lens in lieu of fans.

There is some recent Rotten Tomatoes drama.
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Both journalists/critics and fans have they own way of seeing this. It doesn't make one automatically right and other automatically wrong. I have found that best way to use reviews is to "read between lines" and determine based on what has been written or said (in case of video review) would you like what has been reviewed and would seeing it or getting it (in case on video games) be worth it to you instead of either taking journalists/critics word as absolute truth or ignoring it as not matching your opinions while focusing on rating/score that doesn't actually matter at all. After all journalists/critics are just humans with they own likes, dislikes and biases just like everyone of us have.
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Well a more formalized review doesn't look at a sequel and talk typically of the franchise and studio decisions to not hire Edgar Wright in favor of someone that will make their McMansion of a tentpole movie. They talk about it in comparison of literally every movie they've seen, with respect mainly to the type of genre and the current 5-10 year span of movies coming out. Star Wars just happens to be big enough that it's not likely you're going to talk about the new movies without a degree of reverence for the original trilogy's impact on cinema. No reviewer though is talking about a film in terms of their expectations of where a franchise is going, which is an aspect that fans not only talk about a lot, but tend to agree on organically. The fact that Wrath of Khan was critically acclaimed is practically just a coincidence, but that's probably a bad example as I feel Star Trek movies in general might be the most ambiguous in terms of division between fans and formal journalists.
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Looks like Disney has failed to learn from what happened. I have a feeling this isn't going to go well for them.
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