[Star Wars] The NuCanon Positivity thread

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There's a line of dialogue in Rebels that I particularly like that is said during Sabine's lightsaber training with Kanan, "The blades will be drawn to each other."

It's a small moment but one that I Really like as it fills a long running issue that I, and many others, have had with the series. Why is it during a Lightsaber duel the combatants are always aiming for the lightsaber instead of their opponent? This has been a issue that been bugging me for YEARS and with one small line of dialogue Rebels fixes this issue. Given that weapons in Star Wars like lightsabers and blasters are almost certainly plasma based that means that there is a magnet nature to them, when he when blaster fire or a lightsabers strike one another they don't pass through one another like they would if they were actual light.

And that line from Kanan seems to confirm this and explains why Jedi and Sith fight the way they do. They aren't aiming for the blades, blades are being pulled towards one another and the Force users are trying to work around that. Again, it's a small moment but one that I truly do like for the world building and plot hole fixing it does. :D
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Actually, I could answer this, Winter. The Darth Bane novels shows that Force users erect an invisible "Force" barrier between them and their opponents. You'd have to break through that invisible TK field to land a hit. But that was for Legends, and hey, credit where credit is due, this is something I could accept being part of a new continuity. I don't think those in charge are even aware of that explanation from the Bane novels, but the end result is still positive. Also makes it distinct from Legends. You did say "years and years" and at the time, Legends was the old EU, not what it is now. :)
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I take it more as, "They know where the blades will go because they can see the future."
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But that doesn't explain why non-force users follow the same from of combat. The Old Republic and The Clone Wars (I'm just covering series I've actually seen/has appeared on Chuck's site) shows non-force users fighting in the exact way Force Users do and I'm pretty sure that any and all non-force users can't see the future or make a Force shield around them, (never got a chance to read the Darth Bane books, sorry ^^'). So, for me, the explanation in Rebels works best because it explains why everyone who uses a lightsaber, regardless if they have full access to the Force or not, fight the way they do. :)
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I know that this is a very, very controversial statement, but I think Kylo Ren is the most developed and compelling villain Star Wars has ever put to screen.
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... do they REALLY show non-Forcers fighting like flippin' Jedi or Sith? OMG... not even bashing NuCanon here since if TOR does that, that's straight-up Legends... no, that's just clearly a writer's own headcanon, period.
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I do wonder if in five or so years people will re-evaluate the prequels because I wonder how much critism is real, and how much is it people wanting the impossible. I do think it have flaws but I like it.
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Well, even best of prequels is overshadowed by the novel. If anything, it might get people pining more for Legends.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:21 am I know that this is a very, very controversial statement, but I think Kylo Ren is the most developed and compelling villain Star Wars has ever put to screen.
Based on the movies alone?
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Karha of Honor wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:52 pm
Draco Dracul wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:21 am I know that this is a very, very controversial statement, but I think Kylo Ren is the most developed and compelling villain Star Wars has ever put to screen.
Based on the movies alone?
Disney has been very protective of Kylo. He's made almost no appearances out of the movies.
Yukaphile wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:35 am ... do they REALLY show non-Forcers fighting like flippin' Jedi or Sith? OMG... not even bashing NuCanon here since if TOR does that, that's straight-up Legends... no, that's just clearly a writer's own headcanon, period.
General Grevious is a cyborg and there's plenty of alien melee masters. Mandalorians, for example, are meant to be capable of fighting with duelist precision. Star Wars is a martial arts setting, basically kind of a space wuxia, so I don't see the problem.
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