My review of Star Trek: Discovery season one and two

[Yukaphile]

... are you just flat-up trolling me now? Exploring concepts like "Who Watches the Watchers?" is not classic Trek? Or some ancient space probe of knowledge? You elaborate on those, please.

[TGLS]

[Yukaphile]

Even if I watch something, I don't do so till it's done. I wanna know everything about it before it's done, seriously.

[MissKittyFantastico]

... are you just flat-up trolling me now?

I'm trying not to, but you're making it really hard.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Even if I watch something, I don't do so till it's done. I wanna know everything about it before it's done, seriously.

And what we do during that time is we wait.

[MissKittyFantastico]

While I'm here though I should say (to Charles, I mean) that struck me as a very well expressed review. Myself I'd probably have knocked another half a point of the rating out of ten just because the Ash/Michael relationship... I dunno, it never clicked. I love both actors, while they're on screen I buy whatever they're saying and doing in the moment, but as soon as it's over and I think back I just can't find my footing with the whole idea of those two having a connection (which kind of extended into Ash in season two for me as well - great acting, weak character). Thanks for taking the effort, it's made me think I really should watch through s1 over a weekend sometime.

[Yukaphile]

Again, I'm curious. What would all of you rate TNG Season 1? Compared to DISCO Season 1? DISCO Season 1 is only a few years old, while TNG Season 1 is decades ago and we all know where it led. While DISCO still has the "new-car" smell, and we don't know where it's going. We can only look back on the past's flaws, while hoping the future will be better, so it's relative. Look, this is my big beef with Trek now. And not even Trek. It's my disdain for late-stage capitalism. Their TERROR at doing anything new and losing sales is more apparent than ever. The greed hasn't changed, but it has reshuffled due to changing times. Again, take B5. It has a massive story bible, I hear, that guaranteed it would be an amazing show. And even if it was mooched to make DS9, DS9 did its own thing. I think ultimately that you need a story bible if you wanna be serialized in today's world. But... the corporate mentality is that "limits" your options, because it locks you down into a more narrow perspective with less room to breathe, and it smothers creativity. JMS was ahead of his time in what he did. Are they doing the same now? Hell, does DISCO even have a series bible? Given how much a cash cow Trek is, it wouldn't surprise me if it didn't, or was very light, just a few ideas shared among friends who work on it now. Hell, what I think JMS did should be the gold standard. Time has proven this again and again. It's what Lucas did too. But... that just isn't in the corporate mandate. Bleh.

[Mecha82]

Even if I watch something, I don't do so till it's done. I wanna know everything about it before it's done, seriously.

Maybe you should then avoid taking part into conversations before that instead of acting like you know what you are talking about when in reality you are not.

[Yukaphile]

I know enough about modern corporate practices, and how worse they are getting.

[TGLS]

What would all of you rate TNG Season 1?

Using Chuck's secondary scale: Avoid to Watchable. Nearly all Unimportant, except for Farpoint, which nets a Somewhat Important (I'd pick something lower, but there isn't one).

Compared to DISCO Season 1?

Watchable to Recommended. Importance is difficult to gauge at Season 2, but ranges from Unimportant (Magic Yada Yada Yada) to Important (Klingon War Resolution, Mirror Georgiou, Spore Network Magic, Stamets Husband, Ash/Voq).