McAvoy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:08 amI kinda remember reading somewhere that Aladdin started out 'tan' and became more white as the movie went along. I haven't seen the movie in years outside the live action one.
Anyway, one thing I can agree with, is stop insulting fans that don't like the movie or product you make. Even if a small part of them have some sort of sexist or racist view of it.
The Ghostbusters 2016 director constantly does this. Even now.
I'd agree don't insult people who don't like your stuff, it at best makes you look petty and hypersensitive. Not that creators are not famously both extremely attached to their art and very sensitive of criticism (counting the number of film critics who have been killed by proxy in movies is hard to do, it's no few) but it makes you look like a sad person. There's been a few authors who have had arguments with internet reviewers, and it just never is a good look. I mean randoms on the internet are randoms, no matter how stupid, you're making a movie/writing a book/etc. and they're never going to manage that.
I can see authors getting personal over criticism over their books. Afterall, they are the creators and writers of their work. Still not a good look but I still get it.
Studios that produce a movie making statements that the criticisms is from toxic fans who live in their parents basement? Or they are sexist or racist? That takes it too far and should be stopped. Especially if those fans are part of the bedrock which your franchise is built.
McAvoy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:08 amI kinda remember reading somewhere that Aladdin started out 'tan' and became more white as the movie went along. I haven't seen the movie in years outside the live action one.
Anyway, one thing I can agree with, is stop insulting fans that don't like the movie or product you make. Even if a small part of them have some sort of sexist or racist view of it.
The Ghostbusters 2016 director constantly does this. Even now.
I'd agree don't insult people who don't like your stuff, it at best makes you look petty and hypersensitive. Not that creators are not famously both extremely attached to their art and very sensitive of criticism (counting the number of film critics who have been killed by proxy in movies is hard to do, it's no few) but it makes you look like a sad person. There's been a few authors who have had arguments with internet reviewers, and it just never is a good look. I mean randoms on the internet are randoms, no matter how stupid, you're making a movie/writing a book/etc. and they're never going to manage that.
I can see authors getting personal over criticism over their books. Afterall, they are the creators and writers of their work. Still not a good look but I still get it.
Studios that produce a movie making statements that the criticisms is from toxic fans who live in their parents basement? Or they are sexist or racist? That takes it too far and should be stopped. Especially if those fans are part of the bedrock which your franchise is built.
Directors are to movies as writers are to books. Even if a movie is by definition an artistic collaboration, the director is the one in charge of making it all come together.
As for these twits being the "bedrock on which your franchise is built", McAvoy, this guy here is so unfamiliar about the idea of Thor becoming unworthy and giving up his title that his primary source is a buzzfeed article about the upcoming movie.
These people are internet randos. You make a decent film like Black Panther, it does well. You make a pile of steaming shit like Captain Marvel... actually I don't know how Captain Marvel did, but I hope the sheer force of my hatred caused it to earn negative money, it was Iron Man 2 levels of awful. The randos are randos, no one gives a fuck if someone makes fun of them.
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McAvoy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:08 amI kinda remember reading somewhere that Aladdin started out 'tan' and became more white as the movie went along. I haven't seen the movie in years outside the live action one.
Anyway, one thing I can agree with, is stop insulting fans that don't like the movie or product you make. Even if a small part of them have some sort of sexist or racist view of it.
The Ghostbusters 2016 director constantly does this. Even now.
I'd agree don't insult people who don't like your stuff, it at best makes you look petty and hypersensitive. Not that creators are not famously both extremely attached to their art and very sensitive of criticism (counting the number of film critics who have been killed by proxy in movies is hard to do, it's no few) but it makes you look like a sad person. There's been a few authors who have had arguments with internet reviewers, and it just never is a good look. I mean randoms on the internet are randoms, no matter how stupid, you're making a movie/writing a book/etc. and they're never going to manage that.
I can see authors getting personal over criticism over their books. Afterall, they are the creators and writers of their work. Still not a good look but I still get it.
Studios that produce a movie making statements that the criticisms is from toxic fans who live in their parents basement? Or they are sexist or racist? That takes it too far and should be stopped. Especially if those fans are part of the bedrock which your franchise is built.
Directors are to movies as writers are to books. Even if a movie is by definition an artistic collaboration, the director is the one in charge of making it all come together.
As for these twits being the "bedrock on which your franchise is built", McAvoy, this guy here is so unfamiliar about the idea of Thor becoming unworthy and giving up his title that his primary source is a buzzfeed article about the upcoming movie.
These people are internet randos. You make a decent film like Black Panther, it does well. You make a pile of steaming shit like Captain Marvel... actually I don't know how Captain Marvel did, but I hope the sheer force of my hatred caused it to earn negative money, it was Iron Man 2 levels of awful. The randos are randos, no one gives a fuck if someone makes fun of them.
I agree. Don't comment about Female Thor if you don't even read the comics or know the history of it. Don't rely on click bait articles to color your opinion.
Black Panther was a good and entertaining movie. Was it great? No. But it was entertaining. Captain Marvel is the first Marvel movie I actually passed out on. Not from a lack of sleep or drinking prior, but it put me to sleep. It's not an interesting movie. It made as much as it did because people thought it would very connected to Endgame. Which is wasn't. Introduced a charter who was at the beginning then disappeared and then reappeared at the end.
I don't view directors as authors. You got screenwriters and a multitude of other people contributing to that script. Then you got the director who makes his or her own changes if they can. You also have actors who sometimes will do things that changes that actor too. Then you got the producers.
Just too many people for a movie. Directors do have alot of control over the movie but not like a author.
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McAvoy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:45 amI agree. Don't comment about Female Thor if you don't even read the comics or know the history of it. Don't rely on click bait articles to color your opinion.
Black Panther was a good and entertaining movie. Was it great? No. But it was entertaining. Captain Marvel is the first Marvel movie I actually passed out on. Not from a lack of sleep or drinking prior, but it put me to sleep. It's not an interesting movie. It made as much as it did because people thought it would very connected to Endgame. Which is wasn't. Introduced a charter who was at the beginning then disappeared and then reappeared at the end.
I don't view directors as authors. You got screenwriters and a multitude of other people contributing to that script. Then you got the director who makes his or her own changes if they can. You also have actors who sometimes will do things that changes that actor too. Then you got the producers.
Just too many people for a movie. Directors do have alot of control over the movie but not like a author.
A screenwriter doesn't make a movie. In book terms what they make is basically an outline, like the Cliff Notes are. They make this outline, they shop it around, then a studio takes the outline, and they look for someone to make it into a book. A script really is like the Cliff Notes version of a movie.
Yes, the director has to manage a whole bunch of different people and the movies are a product of their combined artistic talents, while writing is usually a collaboration between a very small number of people - often just two or three. But that doesn't change that the director's role is to create everything the audience will see, the way a writer writes every word the audience reads. It's the Director's vision that gets seen, and they often have a view of their movies very much the same way that writers view their books.
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I don't view directors as authors. You got screenwriters and a multitude of other people contributing to that script. Then you got the director who makes his or her own changes if they can. You also have actors who sometimes will do things that changes that actor too. Then you got the producers.
Just too many people for a movie. Directors do have alot of control over the movie but not like a author.
I advise against this btw. I've heard of an actor's character being killed off by falling in an elevator shaft after being caught improvising his lines.
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Disney, like all corporations, only cares about money. If they ever try to appear "progressive" or "woke" or whatever, it's only superficial and they often come across as lame, kind of like that scene from "Austin Powers" where Dr. Evil tries to appear hip to his son, by "dancing" Macarena. It's a fad, that will age poorly, just like other fads from the past. Sometimes they age like milk immediately *cough*"Live for now" Pepsi commercial.
What I'm saying is that we shouldn't be persuaded by Hollywood and other corporations when they say that they are "progressive" or "woke" or that they have given up on said practices, because they barely care about them in the first place, to them it's just another source of money. They can thump their chest as much as they want that they're so "woke" now, that they're better, they make life better they haven't changed or improved except maybe superficial. They can claim whatever they want, fundamentally they barely care. "Look, we have more *insert minority here* characters in this film!" Excellent! Now these actors too will feel the pain of Hollywood accounting, excessive NDAs, absurd loopholes in the contracts, asshole producers and they too may end up taking drugs and having mental breakdowns, like the older actors they admired! YAY!
Disney does, has, and probably always will only do the safest, non-threatening, middle-of-the-road thing. If you think they are being annoyingly "woke" that is because you have been left behind by the most tepid and milquetoast of societal advances.
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