Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?

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People love to feel outraged about something, left or right.

Case in point: Those triggered by Larson's comments about not caring what forty year old white men think of A WRINKLE IN TIME.

"HOW DARE SHE NOT CONSIDER MY OPINION"
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Sir Will wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:10 am
clearspira wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:51 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:08 pm
clearspira wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:01 pm you are a man who just admitted to the world that this film you have never seen means so much to you that you are going to go out of your way to lie.
You really believed that I was being earnest with that post, didn't you?
Yes. Because that is exactly what I would expect you to do based on our conversations thus far. Also, perhaps you should look up Poe's Law.
He literally added a winky face. Did he really need to add /sarcasm for you people to get it?
Yes. Because that was such a well crafted and quite frankly genius level joke :roll:
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Makeshift Python wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:24 am People love to feel outraged about something, left or right.

Case in point: Those triggered by Larson's comments about not caring what forty year old white men think of A WRINKLE IN TIME.

"HOW DARE SHE NOT CONSIDER MY OPINION"
Are you still going on about that?
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Darth, how is not caring about somebody's opinion of a film discrimination, by even the most broad of definitions? That's been bugging me for a while.
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clearspira wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:34 am
Sir Will wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:10 am
clearspira wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:51 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:08 pm
clearspira wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:01 pm you are a man who just admitted to the world that this film you have never seen means so much to you that you are going to go out of your way to lie.
You really believed that I was being earnest with that post, didn't you?
Yes. Because that is exactly what I would expect you to do based on our conversations thus far. Also, perhaps you should look up Poe's Law.
He literally added a winky face. Did he really need to add /sarcasm for you people to get it?
Yes. Because that was such a well crafted and quite frankly genius level joke :roll:
Didn't say it was a good joke, just an obvious one that people made stupid replies to as if it was real.
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clearspira wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:34 am
Sir Will wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:10 am
clearspira wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:51 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:08 pm
clearspira wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:01 pm you are a man who just admitted to the world that this film you have never seen means so much to you that you are going to go out of your way to lie.
You really believed that I was being earnest with that post, didn't you?
Yes. Because that is exactly what I would expect you to do based on our conversations thus far. Also, perhaps you should look up Poe's Law.
He literally added a winky face. Did he really need to add /sarcasm for you people to get it?
Yes. Because that was such a well crafted and quite frankly genius level joke :roll:
I'm so glad you appreciate it! :D

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Well, the rottentomatoes score is currently sitting at 84% with a 7.04/10 average among all critics and 63% with a 6.08/10 average among top reviewers. Metacritic rating is currently sitting at 66%. Whatever one might think of the social issues surrounding the film, it's pretty safe to say that a strong female superhero certainly wouldn't hurt the critical score. On top of that, while critics might not typically view superhero movies as high art, even formulaic MCU films don't have to pass a high bar to get a positive rating- every single one has a fresh rating, with only Thor Dark World and The Incredible Hulk falling below the "certified fresh" bar (at 66% and 67% positive, respectively).

Of course, superhero/comic book films are one genre where critics and fans don't necessarily agree. Critical consensus rates (and frankly, overrates) Black Panther higher than Infinity War, while fans clearly prefer the latter. I'm doubtful that will be the case with Captain Marvel.

All that is to say that there's no indication that this will be one of the great ones. We'll see what the box office brings, but I don't think it will live up to the hype and marketing, or the outrage for that matter. My guess would be "passable."
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There’s always this anticipation for Marvel’s first bomb. That the next one will not resonate. I most remember that with GUARDIANS and DOCTOR STRANGE. I don’t expect each film to be THE BEST EVER because most have merely been passable entertainment, but so far they haven’t made a blunder for the franchise on the level of say THE FINAL FRONTIER. So quality control has more or less been pretty solid.

Of course, I think IRON MAN 2 is more entertaining than a lot in the catalog and I see many rank that among the lowest of MCU.
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I don't think it's necessarily about the film being the best ever, but her placement is crucial and might be really important and kickass for Infinity War. Not to mention that she is shotgunning the series into Phase 4, unless her movie is considered Phase 3. She's supposed to be the most powerful hero in the MCU or something, so there's promotional hype.
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Still phase 3. They were going to go more cosmic after this. But then the Fox deal happened and the Gunn stuff happened, who was going to help plan that aspect, so who knows what'll happen. Hopefully later this year they lay out some of their future plans.

Black Widow and Eternals next year I think. A Strange 2, Guardians 3, Spider-Man 3, Black Panther 2 at some point. Beyond that, dunno.
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