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Calling an Asian girl a dumb jungle retard with autism? That bothers me because it's precisely the kind of guy who votes for someone who mocks a disabled reporter.
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Yukaphile wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:06 pm Calling an Asian girl a dumb jungle retard with autism? That bothers me because it's precisely the kind of guy who votes for someone who mocks a disabled reporter.
Kind of guy...

What does that even mean? It could not had been a woman?
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"Guy" means girl or boy to me.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:57 pm
unknownsample wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:48 pm
Yukaphile wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:57 am There is no "culture wars" involved in Star Wars beyond a few right-wing trolls stirring shit up. I mean, look how they edited Kelly Marie Tran's Wookieepedia page to get an idea what I mean, painting her as a dumb, drooling jungle retard. Pure racism at its worst. I prefer something like WorldofGeekdom. He is professional in his criticisms without bringing up politics. Very rarely has he done so at all, and I appreciate that.
Yes indeed, but Slash will do what he does best pull statements out of his backside and play whataboutery.
Is there a forcefield preventing you from challenging what i say?
Given that what you say is usually barely thought out drivel what's the point?
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:24 am
Meushell wrote: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:12 pm
Rocketboy1313 wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:43 am
unknownsample wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:23 pm
Rocketboy1313 wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:17 pm I like the new Trilogy and dislike the "Star Wars Story" stuff.
This looks like it will work, because it is about an original character, but contains the trappings of the franchise that have been shown to be popular.
It is also not about a planet destroying super weapon.
Blimey someone on here likes the new trilogy?
Honestly, the amount of bitching is just baffling to me.
At a certain point I have to assume what marks someone as a "fan" of Star Wars is their capacity to complain about Star Wars.

I've seen 7 and 8 twice each, and liked them each time. People seem to dislike things that I like in the movies, so whenever somebody tells me, "This thing was so bad..." I have just started to tune them out.

There is a never ending font of genre fiction in the world now I have no idea how anybody has time to hate anything for more than a few minutes.
I’m not really a fan of TLJ, but even I’m tired of the complaints about the movie. It’s in large part because so many people aren’t just, “I don’t like this movie,” but they are overly dramatic about it, and they believe they speak for all fans. That, and it happens every time something new Star Wars comes out.
If somone says in 2012 November that National Review will write Star Wars was drafted into the culture wars i just walk away laughing.

Disney choose to do this.
I’m not really sure what your point is, as your comment does not actually address what I said. The best I can get from this is that you are proud to be a “My Opinion is the Only Right One” type of fan. If you are not that type of fan, then my post wasn’t about you or any of your opinions.
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unknownsample wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:01 pm
Slash Gallagher wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:57 pm
unknownsample wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:48 pm
Yukaphile wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:57 am There is no "culture wars" involved in Star Wars beyond a few right-wing trolls stirring shit up. I mean, look how they edited Kelly Marie Tran's Wookieepedia page to get an idea what I mean, painting her as a dumb, drooling jungle retard. Pure racism at its worst. I prefer something like WorldofGeekdom. He is professional in his criticisms without bringing up politics. Very rarely has he done so at all, and I appreciate that.
Yes indeed, but Slash will do what he does best pull statements out of his backside and play whataboutery.
Is there a forcefield preventing you from challenging what i say?
Given that what you say is usually barely thought out drivel what's the point?
Okay. Anyone from my political tribe called me out?
Meushell wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:38 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:24 am
Meushell wrote: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:12 pm
Rocketboy1313 wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:43 am
unknownsample wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:23 pm
Rocketboy1313 wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:17 pm I like the new Trilogy and dislike the "Star Wars Story" stuff.
This looks like it will work, because it is about an original character, but contains the trappings of the franchise that have been shown to be popular.
It is also not about a planet destroying super weapon.
Blimey someone on here likes the new trilogy?
Honestly, the amount of bitching is just baffling to me.
At a certain point I have to assume what marks someone as a "fan" of Star Wars is their capacity to complain about Star Wars.

I've seen 7 and 8 twice each, and liked them each time. People seem to dislike things that I like in the movies, so whenever somebody tells me, "This thing was so bad..." I have just started to tune them out.

There is a never ending font of genre fiction in the world now I have no idea how anybody has time to hate anything for more than a few minutes.
I’m not really a fan of TLJ, but even I’m tired of the complaints about the movie. It’s in large part because so many people aren’t just, “I don’t like this movie,” but they are overly dramatic about it, and they believe they speak for all fans. That, and it happens every time something new Star Wars comes out.
If somone says in 2012 November that National Review will write Star Wars was drafted into the culture wars i just walk away laughing.

Disney choose to do this.
I’m not really sure what your point is, as your comment does not actually address what I said. The best I can get from this is that you are proud to be a “My Opinion is the Only Right One” type of fan. If you are not that type of fan, then my post wasn’t about you or any of your opinions.
Where did i say zspeak fro all fans?

Lucas was incompetent but people were more or less fine with the video games that came out before Disney. It's not true that everything coming out of SW gets TLJ l;evel long term backlash.
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I don't think the backlash has anything to do with "SJW politics" except to extreme right-wing idiots. For me personally, having never seen the movie, I hate what they did to Luke more. That has nothing to do with politics. Luke is the man who saw good in Vader. He redeemed him. He was hopeful and wise. And in Legends he formed his own Jedi Order that went through trials all their own. In Last Jedi, he's a bitter old man that's that way because of his own mistakes (trying to murder your own unarmed nephew in your sleep, really?! That's... quintessentially Sith-ish!) and is just... a complete betrayal of the character. That has nothing to do with politics unless you wanna contend they were deliberately trying to destroy Luke through character assassination, which still doesn't point to them wanting to piss off the right. It's just more cynical storytelling, which our airwaves are just saturated with.
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Yukaphile wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:43 am I don't think the backlash has anything to do with "SJW politics" except to extreme right-wing idiots. For me personally, having never seen the movie, I hate what they did to Luke more. That has nothing to do with politics. Luke is the man who saw good in Vader. He redeemed him. He was hopeful and wise. And in Legends he formed his own Jedi Order that went through trials all their own. In Last Jedi, he's a bitter old man that's that way because of his own mistakes (trying to murder your own unarmed nephew in your sleep, really?! That's... quintessentially Sith-ish!) and is just... a complete betrayal of the character. That has nothing to do with politics unless you wanna contend they were deliberately trying to destroy Luke through character assassination, which still doesn't point to them wanting to piss off the right. It's just more cynical storytelling, which our airwaves are just saturated with.
Am i supposed to ignore Finn discovering social class on the casino planet?
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Social class? What do you mean? Because I do think this is something even WorldofGeekdom covered. But you know, I'm not against addressing societal inequality when the rich are just getting greedier and hoarding even more resources that could be better put to good use elsewhere. It's why right-wingers wanna label people who lean even slightly left as Communists, even those who wanna reform capitalism. It's what McCarthy did and the attitude is still around today, and a convenient way to spread terror to get people to support your unjust policies by pointing to the real world atrocities of another government and accuse your own citizens of trying to perpetuate that.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:34 am Where did i say zspeak fro all fans?

Lucas was incompetent but people were more or less fine with the video games that came out before Disney. It's not true that everything coming out of SW gets TLJ l;evel long term backlash.
I posted about fans getting rude with each other. You quoted me, and talked about Disney. How else am I supposed to interpret that? It certainly comes off as, “Well, this is how is it.” Otherwise, why are you replying to me about Disney? Why are you now replying to me about Disney vs. Lucas when that has nothing to do with what I said in the first place.
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