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Agent Vinod wrote: I am fine wih Light Side, Dark Side. How the fuck does killing 2 Sith bring balance? Some special forces dudes can just kill Luke with a bomb. What happens in that case?
Because Vader would get an apprentice and turn on Sidious, then Vader's apprentice would get an apprentice and so on causing more and more chaos without the Jedi to stop them.
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GandALF wrote:
Agent Vinod wrote: I am fine wih Light Side, Dark Side. How the fuck does killing 2 Sith bring balance? Some special forces dudes can just kill Luke with a bomb. What happens in that case?
Because Vader would get an apprentice and turn on Sidious, then Vader's apprentice would get an apprentice and so on causing more and more chaos without the Jedi to stop them.
So because they are super ninjas they can take over the galaxy instead of just being an annoyance. Does not sound like a bigger problem than a really good pirate gang.
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Agent Vinod wrote:
GandALF wrote:
Agent Vinod wrote: I am fine wih Light Side, Dark Side. How the fuck does killing 2 Sith bring balance? Some special forces dudes can just kill Luke with a bomb. What happens in that case?
Because Vader would get an apprentice and turn on Sidious, then Vader's apprentice would get an apprentice and so on causing more and more chaos without the Jedi to stop them.
So because they are super ninjas they can take over the galaxy instead of just being an annoyance. Does not sound like a bigger problem than a really good pirate gang.
Well a Sith-Sith civil war would be far more destructive than the rebel-imperial civil war. Sith infighting is what eventually brought down the kotor era Sith, but this time there are no Jedi or Republic to clean up the mess, just an endless cycle of war i.e. imbalance.
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GandALF wrote:
Agent Vinod wrote:
GandALF wrote:
Agent Vinod wrote: I am fine wih Light Side, Dark Side. How the fuck does killing 2 Sith bring balance? Some special forces dudes can just kill Luke with a bomb. What happens in that case?
Because Vader would get an apprentice and turn on Sidious, then Vader's apprentice would get an apprentice and so on causing more and more chaos without the Jedi to stop them.
So because they are super ninjas they can take over the galaxy instead of just being an annoyance. Does not sound like a bigger problem than a really good pirate gang.
Well a Sith-Sith civil war would be far more destructive than the rebel-imperial civil war. Sith infighting is what eventually brought down the kotor era Sith, but this time there are no Jedi or Republic to clean up the mess, just an endless cycle of war i.e. imbalance.
What's the guarantee a large mass of people will want to paricipate in the civil war of these aholes?
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Agent Vinod wrote:
GandALF wrote:
Agent Vinod wrote:
GandALF wrote:
Agent Vinod wrote: I am fine wih Light Side, Dark Side. How the fuck does killing 2 Sith bring balance? Some special forces dudes can just kill Luke with a bomb. What happens in that case?
Because Vader would get an apprentice and turn on Sidious, then Vader's apprentice would get an apprentice and so on causing more and more chaos without the Jedi to stop them.
So because they are super ninjas they can take over the galaxy instead of just being an annoyance. Does not sound like a bigger problem than a really good pirate gang.
Well a Sith-Sith civil war would be far more destructive than the rebel-imperial civil war. Sith infighting is what eventually brought down the kotor era Sith, but this time there are no Jedi or Republic to clean up the mess, just an endless cycle of war i.e. imbalance.
What's the guarantee a large mass of people will want to paricipate in the civil war of these aholes?
Well, people already have vested interests in the Empire and would care about who rules it, and extra factions resisting both sides would still be a still be part of a civil war.
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If the "shroud of the Dark Side" effect was something that the Sith were actively creating, then destroying the Sith (specifically Palpatine) could lead to greater balance in the force, by removing that corrupting influence. Even perhaps indirectly by deliberately instigating major wars and a political culture of paranoia and hatred, making the galaxy a darker place. That's the best I've got. Well, that and the fact that Palpatine was angling for (and in the old EU, at least, achieved) immortality, so he was a threat that had to be countered actively, rather than just waiting for him to die of old age.

I very much doubt its easy to kill high-end Force users with bombs, though. If it was, the Rebels would have done it to Palpatine or Vader, presumably. Someone like Luke would have both above-normal levels of physical durability most likely, and a degree of precognition. Now, neither of those are infallible in Jedi or Sith, but I also doubt that a bomb would cut it, at least not with any degree of reliability.
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The Romulan Republic wrote:
I very much doubt its easy to kill high-end Force users with bombs, though. If it was, the Rebels would have done it to Palpatine or Vader, presumably. Someone like Luke would have both above-normal levels of physical durability most likely, and a degree of precognition. Now, neither of those are infallible in Jedi or Sith, but I also doubt that a bomb would cut it, at least not with any degree of reliability.
Considering the parallels between Palpatine and Hitler in the PT I expect Palpatine had just as good (if not better luck) with assassination attempts that Hitler had in real life.
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Dînadan wrote: Considering the parallels between Palpatine and Hitler in the PT I expect Palpatine had just as good (if not better luck) with assassination attempts that Hitler had in real life.
He more closely resembles Augustus, so he probably had less assassination attempts due to him promising a Pax Galactica rather than a Hitlerite bellum aeternum.
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GandALF wrote:
Dînadan wrote: Considering the parallels between Palpatine and Hitler in the PT I expect Palpatine had just as good (if not better luck) with assassination attempts that Hitler had in real life.
He more closely resembles Augustus, so he probably had less assassination attempts due to him promising a Pax Galactica rather than a Hitlerite bellum aeternum.
I think he should have been more like Lenin, simply taking advantage of the ensuing chaos rather then having mastermined the whole thing.
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And the rebellion should have been more like Cuba, with the empire collapsing upon itself, then Princess Leia triumphantly leaving Hoth to declare victory. Or maybe more like the Chinese Civil War, with the organized rebels defeating an infighting government.
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