Hypothetical new Star Trek show

[clearspira]

BTW, where do you guys and gals stand on uniforms?

I don't like the First Contact uniform. I do not think that Star Trek should be grey (LOVE the white dress uniforms though). The movie red uniforms would make for fantastic dress uniforms too but they aren't very ''Trek'' in retrospect as they are too militaristic. Same as the ENT jumpsuits (LOVE how practical and realistic they are but again they do not really theme well being solid blue).

The first season DISCO uniforms are probably my least favourite of them all you probably won't be suprised to hear as they seem to encompass the bad parts of every other uniform design - solid blue, boring to look at, do not theme well, and horrible gold and silver bits everywhere.

Honestly, I think that the TNG, VOY and LD uniforms probably encapsulate what I like the most. I don't mind the TOS uniforms but that miniskirt has aged appallingly and it kind of bothers me that both Abrams and SNW brought it back. I do not envisage a scenario where a miniskirt will ever be acceptable day-to-day professional attire ever again.

Edit: One more note to add here following on from the miniskirt: In my hypothetical Trek show there will be no one standing on the bridge wearing a catsuit, has padded boobs, is wearing a low cut dress or anything else of a related nature. That is not to say that there cannot be fanservice, but not only is it again horribly dated to dress supposedly professional women up like this, but from the interviews i've read from Marina Sirtis, Jeri Ryan and Denise Crosby, they HATED it. Sirtis has stated that her favourite moment in Trek was when she was given a uniform and Ryan could not even go for a pee. I find it kind of hard to watch some scenes knowing just how unpleasant it was for them tbh. Kind of like ''that scene'' in Return of the Jedi where Fisher had twenty guys leering at her on set all day.

[McAvoy]

I like both post-Season 3 through Nemsis uniforms for various reasons. IMO the DS9 and Voy uniforms could easily have been an alternate uniform to TNG especially since we saw TNG uniforms in DS9. Real world militaries have many different uniforms. Not just regular and dress uniforms.

The First Contact uniforms I don't mind.

The only thing I would do these uniforms is have pockets. The DS9 VOY uniforms have the right look to give them shoulder pockets, maybe breast pockets too.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Stylistically I like Dominion War / First Contact uniforms because they are the most sleek and give a cool office vibe.

[McAvoy]

I also personally like Enterprise uniforms. They are actually practical up to a point. They honestly should have been a two piece uniform.

Coveralls like that are traditionally work uniforms in the military. Comfortable, light weight and cheap enough to replace if damaged. Disadvantage is that if you have to take a dump you got to strip down and have the coveralls kept at knee level to prevent it from touching the ground.

[stryke]

Honestly, I think that the TNG, VOY and LD uniforms probably encapsulate what I like the most.

Seconded.

I also personally like Enterprise uniforms. They are actually practical up to a point. They honestly should have been a two piece uniform.

I'd have liked them more without the baseball caps.

[TGLS]

I'd have given them outdoor hiking hats

[Madner Kami]

Personally, I find the Dominion War-/First Contact-style of uniforms the most appealing, with two notable exceptions I'll come to. They aren't impractical jumpsuits, like TNG, they're not uncomfortably body-tight, like in TOS and they don't have that wierd 80s-revival-in-the-90s shoulder-padding the Voyager and early-DS9 featured, though I grant that these uniforms looked better on the DS9-crew than the Voyager-crew. I feel that's mostly a question of colour-saturation, which was a lot higher on Voyager-footage in general, though this could just as well be down to proper fitting for the actors.
And while the DS9-/movie-uniforms and the Voyager-uniforms have a similar pattern, I prefer the DS9-/movie-uniforms, because both the shoulder-padding issue and, because the DS9-/movie-uniforms are more subtle and less "in your face" with their colouring. Letting people know to which departement you belong is fine and dandy, but the "in your face"-colouring of pretty much every other uniform is just distracting in my perception. To me, it's like someone running around and loudly shouting "I'm working for Starfleet Engineering!", whenever you look at them. It's just grating.

As for the exceptions: For one, there are the Enterprise-jumpsuits/coveralls. They seem reasonably easy to get in and out of, their markings (rank and departement) are subtle and yet easy to read and they got a fuckton of pockets. That's just flat out practical and functional clothing. Love it. If it weren't a jumpsuit or coverall, it'd be by far the best.
And for the other: The MACO-uniforms/combat-makeup. Same reasoning as for the Enterprise-clothing. Practical, straight forward, subtle, functional. Perfect. This gets all the more obvious, when you compare a Dominion-War soldier in a Voyager-uniform to a MACO. One marches into war with a brightly coloured bar right between the head and the vital organs. The other wins the engagement.

Special mentions:
Slow Motion Picture uniforms. Go fuck yourself. The 60s were over 20 years ago and it was shit back then already. Though they still seem more practical than the TNG-uniforms. Somehow.
TOS-movie uniforms: Great design, love it. As a parade uniform. Wearing it on a daily basis for the job? Nope. But the design is so good, that I just can't help but exempt it from shame.

[clearspira]

Slow Motion Picture uniforms. Go fuck yourself. The 60s were over 20 years ago and it was shit back then already. Though they still seem more practical than the TNG-uniforms. Somehow.
TOS-movie uniforms: Great design, love it. As a parade uniform. Wearing it on a daily basis for the job? Nope. But the design is so good, that I just can't help but exempt it from shame.

As Chuck noted in his review, those TMP uniforms seemed to be deliberately designed to show us the size of the actor's penises. (Why yes, I did just spend quite a long time shifting through pictures of men's crotches just to find a good one for this thread. Why do you ask?)



To give Abrams some credit though I think he (or more exactly his costume designer) actually did quite a good job in updating it. Gone is the skin tight look, that awful belt that looks like a piece of equipment and the weird cut.





His Academy uniforms are not that bad either. Certainly better than what DS9 gave us which was just the same outfit with a different colour.



Although there is a reason why we never saw the hat all that often. As styled here by Alternate Carol Marcus, sporting this seasons ''SS'' look.

[Al-1701]

Star Trek should have more uniforms with pockets. People of the future will carry things and need need pockets for them.

[McAvoy]

Slow Motion Picture uniforms. Go fuck yourself. The 60s were over 20 years ago and it was shit back then already. Though they still seem more practical than the TNG-uniforms. Somehow.
TOS-movie uniforms: Great design, love it. As a parade uniform. Wearing it on a daily basis for the job? Nope. But the design is so good, that I just can't help but exempt it from shame.

As Chuck noted in his review, those TMP uniforms seemed to be deliberately designed to show us the size of the actor's penises. (Why yes, I did just spend quite a long time shifting through pictures of men's crotches just to find a good one for this thread. Why do you ask?)



To give Abrams some credit though I think he (or more exactly his costume designer) actually did quite a good job in updating it. Gone is the skin tight look, that awful belt that looks like a piece of equipment and the weird cut.





His Academy uniforms are not that bad either. Certainly better than what DS9 gave us which was just the same outfit with a different colour.



Although there is a reason why we never saw the hat all that often. As styled here by Alternate Carol Marcus, sporting this seasons ''SS'' look.

TBH, I so like Kirk's TMP uniform. Maybe the gray could be replaced with a dark blue so it's not so monotone. But even the dark gray doesn't seem bad to me. But the other uniforms? No they are bad.