Star Trek Discovery season 2 megathread

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Everyone you don't agree with is "alt-right."

So you can't say who I lied about or how I lied about them? So you're admitting you just made that up then?

That's not very far fetched if you agree with everybody except alt-righters.

Yep. Sadly it is not very far fetched at all to believe that a lot of people don't see a political spectrum and rather a binary system of "with me" or "against me".

And it's TEARING THIS WORLD APART>

[Worffan101]

The main problem is that Slash and Admiral X have openly and actively promoted alt-right nonsense ranging from the "soy boy" conspiracy theory, which claims that soybeans "feminize" people, to swearing up and down that the word "cuck" isn't predominantly associated with the alt-right.

Life is too short for alt-right trolls.

[Admiral X]

The main problem is that Slash and Admiral X have openly and actively promoted alt-right nonsense ranging from the "soy boy" conspiracy theory, which claims that soybeans "feminize" people, to swearing up and down that the word "cuck" isn't predominantly associated with the alt-right.

Life is too short for alt-right trolls.

The only "conspiracy theory" here is you trying to revoke my minority status because I don't agree with your partisan nonsense.

[Makeshift Python]

Sadly, American politics are treated like football given the two party system.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Just a reminder, everybody, that there is a new video available for streaming season 2.

[Makeshift Python]

It certainly cements itself as part of the same universe as “The Cage” by using its footage in the “previously on” recap, reinforcing the idea that the only thing that makes it different from TOS is that it’s made in 2019 instead of 1964. So if it wasn’t a parent before it is now: there will be no “in universe” explanation for why the show is visually different. You only need to hand wave visual differences like you would for when a role is recast with a different actor, an actor is playing a different character, and that two seasons were completely animated.

Certainly won’t be accepted by a lot of fans, as for many the 1960s visuals were also canon and should be adhered to.

[Zoinksberg]

Certainly won’t be accepted by a lot of fans, as for many the 1960s visuals were also canon and should be adhered to.

It's so funny, when they created The Force Awakens they put the Millennium Falcon in and it looks... pretty much the same. Seems if certain Trek fans watched that they would all be upset since it looks so 70's and they should update it. After all, just because it is the same ship in the same universe it shouldn't have 1970's visuals

I also laugh that anybody who thinks a "previously on Star Trek" and shows footage straight from The Cage thinks that this is PROOF that it is the same universe, well I suppose you should also believe that Captain Proton actually happened in the Star Trek universe since they showed that too. The only reason they put that in is because they know a lot of Discovery fans have never seen TOS and the events of The Cage are kind of important to this episode.

All that said, still a decent episode. I still rank the bad higher than the good, but credit where it is due and an enjoyable episode deserves recognition. I just hope they don't screw up the opportunities that introducing time travel gives them to smooth out some of the problems.

[Worffan101]

That was better than I expected but still meh.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

That was better than I expected but still meh.

What'd you think of Saru's home planet episode?

[Makeshift Python]

Certainly won’t be accepted by a lot of fans, as for many the 1960s visuals were also canon and should be adhered to.

It's so funny, when they created The Force Awakens they put the Millennium Falcon in and it looks... pretty much the same. Seems if certain Trek fans watched that they would all be upset since it looks so 70's and they should update it. After all, just because it is the same ship in the same universe it shouldn't have 1970's visuals

I know hardcore fans like to insist that because if Star Wars can get away with it so should Star Trek, but that’s wishful thinking IMO. The intricate production design aesthetics of 1970s cinema still largely holds up well today along with other films of that era like ALIEN, whereas TOS was a production limited to 1960s television budgets and originally aired on fuzzy little televisions, as a result the sets and make up only needed to look good enough for television of that era, but wouldn’t have looked appealing for cinema. Now with today’s HD television they felt an ongoing series may not cut it for broader audiences.

That’s why TMP revamped the look wholesale. While they could implement the redesign into the story for drama, the Klingon redesign went on unaddressed because filmmakers assumed most fans would accept they only look different just because Trek upgraded from 60s television to 70s cinema, and imagine the Klingons always looked like that. I certainly thought that way growing up with Trek.