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Re: The Mandalorin

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:22 pm
by Ordo

Re: The Mandalorin

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:36 pm
by Yukaphile
I don't get it?

Re: The Mandalorin

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:39 pm
by Ordo
It's a weapon from the series, specifically the one on the Mando's back, it's also a callback (supposedly) to art of Boba Fett back during the original series.

Re: The Mandalorin

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:25 pm
by Karha of Honor
Yukaphile wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:18 am Social class? What do you mean? Because I do think this is something even WorldofGeekdom covered. But you know, I'm not against addressing societal inequality when the rich are just getting greedier and hoarding even more resources that could be better put to good use elsewhere. It's why right-wingers wanna label people who lean even slightly left as Communists, even those who wanna reform capitalism. It's what McCarthy did and the attitude is still around today, and a convenient way to spread terror to get people to support your unjust policies by pointing to the real world atrocities of another government and accuse your own citizens of trying to perpetuate that.
Just because you are for it does not mean it's good for Star Wars. It did just fine without and it was barely present. There was a a CW episode and that was it.

And that was absent minded grandpa George Lucas.
Meushell wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:39 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:34 am Where did i say zspeak fro all fans?

Lucas was incompetent but people were more or less fine with the video games that came out before Disney. It's not true that everything coming out of SW gets TLJ l;evel long term backlash.
I posted about fans getting rude with each other. You quoted me, and talked about Disney. How else am I supposed to interpret that? It certainly comes off as, “Well, this is how is it.” Otherwise, why are you replying to me about Disney? Why are you now replying to me about Disney vs. Lucas when that has nothing to do with what I said in the first place.
I made it clear this was not business as usual. This is new and worse.

Re: The Mandalorin

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:32 pm
by Meushell
Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:25 pm
Meushell wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:39 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:34 am Where did i say zspeak fro all fans?

Lucas was incompetent but people were more or less fine with the video games that came out before Disney. It's not true that everything coming out of SW gets TLJ l;evel long term backlash.
I posted about fans getting rude with each other. You quoted me, and talked about Disney. How else am I supposed to interpret that? It certainly comes off as, “Well, this is how is it.” Otherwise, why are you replying to me about Disney? Why are you now replying to me about Disney vs. Lucas when that has nothing to do with what I said in the first place.
I made it clear this was not business as usual. This is new and worse.
Personally, I like Jar Jar. He was over the top in his first movie, but he was handled well later in the other movies and in The Clone Wars.

Re: The Mandalorin

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:36 pm
by Yukaphile
How is it worse? Also, class struggle could work in Star Wars. Who the fuck are you, an entitled fan, to claim otherwise? It could work under the right conditions! But not from incompetent writers. Simple as that.

Re: The Mandalorin

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:44 pm
by Karha of Honor
Yukaphile wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:36 pm How is it worse? Also, class struggle could work in Star Wars. Who the fuck are you, an entitled fan, to claim otherwise? It could work under the right conditions! But not from incompetent writers. Simple as that.
Not everyone regognizes the IRL premise also it's not like even leftists feel very uplifted by the IRL leftist organizations they have to deal with.

I donm't think saying it explicitly would do any good instead of the usual Jedi helping poor people or slaves or whatever.

The Left dominates mainstream culture and they cannot really portray well working Leftists states on the big or small screen.

Bad idea.

Re: The Mandalorin

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:47 pm
by Yukaphile
Look at the Exchange from KOTOR. That's class struggle, is it not? A group of evil businessmen working together to carve out more power and influence and exploitation.

Re: The Mandalorin

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:37 pm
by Karha of Honor
Yukaphile wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:47 pm Look at the Exchange from KOTOR. That's class struggle, is it not? A group of evil businessmen working together to carve out more power and influence and exploitation.
Last time i checked most libertarians were not endorsing the Mafia or Yakuza.

We don't know to what extent were they business man or violence specialists who saw the businessman thing as secondary.

Re: The Mandalorin

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:43 pm
by Yukaphile
They did deal in business. It was a flavor of organized crime, at least the way I saw it. Dealing in spice is easily akin to dealing in prohibited drugs. And there are criminal organizations out there that engage in human trafficking, so stuff like the slave trade is similar.