Does it bother you that Disney will be risk averse with Star Wars?

[Ordo]

youtu.be/kn05kOhUQyo

Should be fun to see them on screen together.

[The Romulan Republic]

Luke and Rey getting some quality father/daughter time together?

Yes, that's my theory on Rey's parentage, and I'm sticking with it until proven otherwise.

[Rasp]

Luke and Rey getting some quality father/daughter time together?

Yes, that's my theory on Rey's parentage, and I'm sticking with it until proven otherwise.

See that right there is my biggest concern - I think Rebels and Rouge One proved you don't need the Skywalkers highly involved in EVERYTHING and I'd honestly feel better if the family line ended with Luke and well you know... that one. Family dynasties are something that are a personal porcupine up the pantaloons for me.

[The Romulan Republic]

Maybe, theoretically.

On the other hand, the main films have always (Rogue One excepted, I suppose) been the story of the Skywalker family, and it would be rather a shame if that line ended with a daddy-killing asshole and an old hermit.

And besides, it was so heavily hinted at in TFA, I felt, that to do otherwise would likely seem contrived, a lame bait and switch, though the fact that they didn't outright confirm it makes me wonder if they have some clumsy attempt at a "twist" coming.

[Fixer]

I'd much prefer they stick with Rey being Luke's daughter rather than insert some hamfisted plot twist.

They haven't actually given out any evidence for any real discussion and on Rey's actual lineage, and I prefer that we don't go down the J.J. Abrahms Mystery Box and Lost style path to stupidity/

[Ordo]

youtu.be/-qsg0fku78o

[The Romulan Republic]

Bad:

-Trailer is kind of awkward, how its put together. Hard to put my name on how, except for that melodramatic opening shot of Rey, which mirrors Finn's first appearance in the TFA trailers.

-That bit about balance sounds like they might be retconning the films' depiction of the Dark Side as a purely evil Force. If moral relativism/ambiguity is your personal philosophy, that's your business, but I don't much care for retconning the films' mythology. But its hard to tell if this is the case without more detail/context.

Good:

-Lots of Luke and Rey.

-Fleet Battle!

[ScreamingDoom]

-That bit about balance sounds like they might be retconning the films' depiction of the Dark Side as a purely evil Force. If moral relativism/ambiguity is your personal philosophy, that's your business, but I don't much care for retconning the films' mythology. But its hard to tell if this is the case without more detail/context.

KoTOR already did that, really. The Sith philosophy isn't, in itself, evil or even promoting evil actions. And I think one can play the Sith Warrior in the MMORPG as a pragmatic but not evil character (and actively oppose those Sith who are evil/crazy/stupid).

Though, granted, one had to be pointlessly cruel in KoTOR if one wanted those Dark Side points. Just as one had to be a Stupid Good granola muncher to get Light Side points.

[The Romulan Republic]

Well, see, its one thing to have something depicted a certain way in a video game. Its another to have the metaphysical underpinnings of the setting contradicted in a major trilogy film.

And it is a contradiction, at least an implied if not an explicit one. The Dark Side is portrayed as evil in the films. At least thus far.

Also, I'll point out that Dark Side does not equal Sith, and it is possible that Sith does not equal Dark Side. You could probably reinterpret the Sith Code in ways that are not innately evil (note that while it lends itself more easily to the Dark Side than the Light Side, the Code makes no actual reference to the Dark Side). Sort of a "Reform Sith Church", if you will.

I would contend that, if we are true to the OT, you cannot have the Dark Side without evil.

And of course, the Sith Code (and KotOR) are non-canon now anyway.

[MithrandirOlorin]

Rey is a Skywalker but not by blood.
http://jaredmithrandirolorin.blogspot.c ... blood.html

First, I want to say Rest in Peace to Kenny Baker, the actor who portrayed R2-D2 in Episodes I-VI.

Some people are so invested in Rey being Luke's daughter they're saying they'd feel like the narrative lied to them if she isn't. I feel like there are a number themes being overlooked by them.

Rey is told by Maz Kanata that her parents are her past not her future.

Kylo Ren says "that Lightsaber belongs to me" with a sense of entitlement. That to me makes it choosing Rey over him far more meaningful if she's NOT a Skywalker by Blood.

Star Wars draws on ancient mythological motifs, many of which have a strong emphasis on bloodlines like much of The Bible. But The Bible also has Galatians 3 which I talked about on another bog recently. So adoption is also a theme in mythology.

Galatians 326-29

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Perhaps the Sequel Trilogy is the New Testament of the Star Wars Legend.

In the talk of parallel roles between George Lucas' two trilogies. It hit me recently the parallel that exists between Padme Amidala and Han Solo. Both are the only person in the main three who aren't Force Sensitive. And also both are members of the Skywalker family by marriage, not by biologically descending from Shimi Skywalker.

Han Solo becomes a father figure to Rey in The Force Awakens, he effectively adopts her, and that is why she inherits The Millennium Falcon. That makes her part of the Skywalker family regardless of her bloodline.

Something else about family themes in Star Wars that I noticed recently.

In both Lucas trilogies you can say that the Skywalker battles their Father in the final film. Anakin defines Obi-Wan as his father figure in Attack of The Clones. Now Obi-Wan viewed their relationship different, he called Anakin his brother in Revenge of The Sith. Maybe their viewing their relationship differently is part of why it was doomed to failure.

It does seem clear there is something going on with Rey's origins. I like the clone of Palpatine theory still. I'd also like it if she too was convinced by the Midichlorians.

-That bit about balance sounds like they might be retconning the films' depiction of the Dark Side as a purely evil Force. If moral relativism/ambiguity is your personal philosophy, that's your business, but I don't much care for retconning the films' mythology. But its hard to tell if this is the case without more detail/context.

The Prequels all set up a more relativist interpretation. And these sequels are embracing the Prequels. Anakin brought Balance to the Force when he destroyed The Jedi, Luke undid that.